[flameas]

mp3 mängijad pole jäänud muusika juurde - vaatasin ipode - kaamerad, touch screenid jms pask? Miks? Selle jaoks on telefon. Kui maksta 180 eurot seadme eest, mis peaks tegelema ainult muusikaga, siis tahan et kogu raha läheks helikvaliteedi alla, mitte ebavajalike lisade jaoks.

Vanu Ipode ka väga ei liigu.. njah

[bjaka]

Ise julgeks odavama otsa mängijatest kiita Sansa Clips+, mida edukalt kasutasin enne hifimani. Sööb igasugu faile FLAC kaasa arvatud, lisaks veel mälukaardi võimalus ja raadiogi.

[Markos]

[CoiL]

Hetkel tundub, et X5 tarkvara on veel ebaküps ja vajab mõningaid uuenduskuure. Seega kaldun hetkel pigem X3 poole FiiO suhtes aga DX50 ülevaateid lugedes tundub, et viimast kiidetakse heli suhtes rohkem.

[Markos]

Juba tundub, enne küsisid prooviks ?

[CoiL]

Jah ja küsin ikka veel prooviks kui keegi raatsib nii lahke olla. X5 tarkvara on kohati probleemne kui foorumeid ja muljeid lugeda aga eks see paraneb peagi uuendustega. Hetkel pean lihtsalt tuginema netiavaruses leiduvatele muljetele.

Aga muidu midagi tarka ka öelda oli või niisama postikoguja?

[bjaka]

Hinnaks tuli 280 euri Saksast.

http://www.head-fi.org/products/hifiman-electronics-hm-700-dac-with-re-400b-balanced-in-ear-headphones-black/reviews/10861

Kaalusin ka X3 ja iBassot aga...

Amazoni komm:

Purchasing this I was on the fence about buying a Colorfly C3, or a used RoCoo P or BA and in the case of the Colorfly, a C&C BH amp. My reason for player shopping is that I view my gear as a collection and I only want to own things worth owning. I plan to keep everything I purchase indefinitely. The HM-601 fully satisfies me, however it is very musical, and has a certain coloration to it's sound that is very, very lush, and analogue sounding (reminiscent of a vinyl record or the cleanest sounding cassette tape you "never" heard).

I needed something that was better than consumer grade, but was still more neutral in terms of sound quality. Having owned the Fiio X3 and been dissatisfied with it's worth (not bad but not collection worthy (I would not use it once I had a better player)) I began looking and for various reasons passed on the over priced iRiver AK100 and the overly bright and thin sounding iBasso DX50 and so it left few options.

I decided on the HM-700 largely because there are NO reviews on here and maybe 2 on Head-fi (you knew that was coming ) and it had a powerful amp section and supported FLAC.

Here's what you get.

A 32gb, 15 or so hour playback time, easy to use, compact and well built, drag and drop music sync'able, FLAC, APE, WAVE, WMA, MP3, etc capable, balanced headphone output equipped DAP with a set of HE-400B balanced i.e.m.'s (in ear monitor's (you may know these as earbuds or in ear phones)). Oh, and all for the price of an iPod Classic.

What you should know.

It is terrific.

Why it is so.

The fact that they actually at this price point, give you so much is simply astounding. It sounds... phenomenal and I have heard a lot of players. For one, it WILL show you a difference between lossless quality music and mp3's. Not in a brutal fashion where music that is of lower quality can't be enjoyed. But if your still rocking 160kbps mp3's, it will swiftly motivate you to step up your musical game. The combination literally was made for each other, and that being said, it is obvious.

The RE400B's sound quite surprisingly, and refreshingly, good out of any "good" or "great" source you plug them into. They are neutral with the slightest hint of warmth. The player truthfully, is not as good sound quality wise taken on it's own as it is with the RE400B's. Meaning the pair together is so pronounced that pairing with other phones doesn't have the same amount of "magic". However, that being said, it is in no way a con. I know I know but stay with me for a bit. The combo is probably in honesty, better than whatever your using now unless it's AT LEAST a $600+ player with a $350 minimum i.e.m..

My reference for i.e.m.'s are my VSonic GR07 MKI's. I have things that have more technical ability, but they are the standard by which all other i.e.m.s are judged and this combo, exceeds what they, in their unbalanced form can do. What I aim to convey is that even if you take two components that are better on their own, and pit it against this player, with the bundled i.e.m.'s, you will have either a very, hard, or very expensive time besting what HiFiMan has done here. I commend them.

I would give this a seal of approval as a gift, as either a set (preferably for those audio inclined), or even just the RE400's as a gift of hifi to a new comer.

In summary SQ wise on 1-10, this hits hard as a combo. Can it be beat, well sure. But can it be beat for less than $600 total? Doubtful, and the point is it's not really justified to try. If you are new to this hobby, or want to give the gift of HiFi I can with all sincerity say start here. It will save you time trying and outgrowing Cowon, Sansa Clips, iPhones and iPods, etc, etc.

I hope I have been helpful, to me this is collection worthy as Hifi, audiophile grade equipment. Now, off to Summit-fi

(reference) Yes, the HM-901, HM-801, HM-802, Terra Player, AK120 etc. I'm sure are better. The purpose it to assure you that if your looking at the Fiio X3 or an amp for your iPod or cell phone etc then to my ears this combo will surpass them, handily in most situations. There are better players for unbalanced i.e.m.'s/headphones, but this isn't just good for the money. It's just good... full stop. So if you want something that is so good you will forget you bought it for your other fancy earphones/headphones, this kind Sir or Maim, is the ticket.

*Edit: 2/15/2014

I have been using the player more with other i.e.m.'s instead of just the included RE400B's. I find that, it doesn't play as well with balanced armatures that are not neutral. I wouldn't recommend it for that specifically (I'm looking at you Westone 3). It is however better than I though when paired with just about any dynamic driver earphone, It is also very, very good when paired with reference quality dynamic driver i.e.m.'s such as the VSonic GR07 or the Sony MDR EX1000's or 7550's.

[Siim159]

Kellelgi veel kogemusi MEElectronics S6P klappidega? Ühte vanemat kommentaari siin ühelt kasutajalt lugesin ning kiitis S6 klappe. Kellelgi veel ehk kogemusi? Vaatasin, et S6P klappidega tuleb juba kaasa see armband ka (mida samuti hetkel otsin). Peamine kasutusala olekski jooksmine. Saaks kohe kaks ühes siis kätte, vaatasin, et UK Amazonist tuleks koos postiga veidike üle 40€. Või leiab kuskilt soodsamalt?
US-st saaks 40$-ga ehk 30€-ga, kuid kuidas nende maksudega lood on? Nii kui üle selle 21€, pannakse maksud tollis otsa või?

[jaank]

Mhm, käibekas tuleb kohe otsa... võib mudugi jopata, aga enamasti mitte.

[flameas]

Ostsin Sansa Clip Plus-i. Esmamulje oli veidi niru - väga vaikne heli, plastine korpus. Aga peale Rockboxi firmware peale panemist ärkas asi ellu - heli on tugev ja puhas, rockbox lisab kümneid valikuid menüüsse, lisaks EQ seadeid. Selle raha eest on tegu ikka väga viisaka elukaga, Marshalli Monitorid ei kõlanud mul ühegi seadme taga ennem nii hästi. Aga rockbox on märksõna, koos sellega on tegu kindlasti parema tootega kui iPod nano või shuffle.

[Petz]

[NekoRobin]

Keegi oskab soovitada mingisuguseid in-ear kõrvaklappe nii 20-30 euro ringis?

[CoiL]

https://foorum.hinnavaatlus.ee/viewtopic.php?t=600678

[flameas]

Beyerdynamic DTX-71 - Soundmagic E10 - Beyerdynamic DX 120

Mida valida? Või mingi neljas variant?

[jaank]

Ma neid Soundmagicuid ei võtaks. Neid küll kiidetakse taevani ja kõlavad ka päris okeilt, aga kui käes on siis jääb nagu midagi puudu, liiga rotikad.
Beyeri inearidega kogemus puudub, suured klapid on küll head.

[markedmen]

Olen üle pika aja jälle kõrvaklappide otsingul. Siiamaani kasutanud selliseid Sony-sid (ilma puldita, http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX58V-BLK-Earbud-Headphones/dp/B004RE3YU8/ref=sr_1_25?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401099787&sr=1-25&keywords=Sony+MDR+EX ), kuid nüüd mõtlesin, et äkki võtaks midagi uut. Euronicsis on hetkel alla hinnatud JBL J22( http://www.euronics.ee/t/51782/korvaklapid/korvaklapid-j22-jbl/j22wht ) ja J33 ( http://www.euronics.ee/t/51913/korvaklapid/korvaklapid-j33-jbl/j33wht ). Sellest ka küsimus, et kas keegi on siit neid ka kasutanud või kuulanud ning mis muljed on jäänud? Tõmbab neist kahest pigem J33-e poole, seda eriti veidi korralikuma ehituse poolest, kuid kuidas helikvaliteet olla võib?
Need Xiaomi Pistonid tunduvad samuti väga huvitavad, kuid klappe oleks üsna pea vaja ning kuu aega oodata ei ole väga võimalik.

[flake]

Olen enda Pistoneid nüüd paar kuud kasutanud ja ei ühtegi halba sõna nende kohta kui oodata kannatab siis viisakas bang for the buck

[bjaka]

[markedmen]

Hmm, siis on küll paha. Mõtlen veidi, kas tasub see kuu või kaks oodata või ostan siis need samad vanad sony-d uuesti.

[ihvike]

Mõtlesin, et võtan tööl mõnikord mõne video heli kuulamiseks poest mingid täiesti suvalised nööbid, et mitte korralikke klappe edasi-tagasi vedada, peaasi, et midagi kostab, helikvaliteet pohhui. Juhuslikult võtsin Prismast sellised https://www.prismamarket.ee/tooted/tehnikakaubad/audio-ja-video/vivanco-noopkorvaklapid-fusion-26773-4008928267730 Kollase karbiga, peal "Super Bass". Huumor eksole. Kodus kuulates tuli aga totaalne WTF moment. Need klapid on head. Ja mitte mingi niisama, et okei, käib kah kuidagi, vaid lihtsalt sõna otseses mõttes head. Originaalis kaasas olnud kummilondid küll mulle perfektselt ei sobinud, kuid kuna neid on aegade jooksul terve ports tekkinud, siis leidsin vanade hulgast sobivamad. Võrreldes 15 korda kallimate Beyeritega samas suurusjärgus helikvaliteedi vahet ei ole kohe üldse.

[number]

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[CoiL]

Mõned head over-ear klappide pakkumised:

Sony MDR7506 > http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR7506-Professional-Diaphragm-Headphone/dp/B000AJIF4E/ref=sr_1_18?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402241344&sr=1-18

Sony MDRV6 > http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Monitor-Series-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ/ref=sr_1_111?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402241411&sr=1-111

Fidelio X1 > http://www.amazon.com/Philips-X1-28-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B00B3QD94O/ref=sr_1_1?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&s=merchant&ie=UTF8&qid=1402241456&sr=1-1&keywords=Fidelio

[olavsu1]

number, sul philipsid kõrvu valutama ei pane?

mulle olid philips she1350 ühed halvimad just oma disaini poolest. üritasin nende kuju dremeliga kohendada. kui enam vähem sobivaks sai, tuli auk korpuse sisse. augule sai teibi tükike peale.

[libe]

türbel, suutsin oma dt880 maha pillata viisil, millega üks element kinni jooksis - ulme
aga enam ei kõlba klapid kasutamiseks

mõtted on uute klappide jaoks ning lisaks on huvi ikkagi vanad ära remontida - teada lugu, et beyeritel on jupid vahetavad ega kellelgi pole kogemust olnud

[jaank]

Oled kindel, et miskine juhe või asi katki ei läinud? Ma olen enda omadele sellist valu andnud, et riie juba hakkab läbi kuluma, aga mängivad nagu kulda.
Ma olen laiali võtnud enda omad, täiesti tehtav ja ei midagi keerulist. Element ise on netis 50£.