[-Superman-]

Part 1
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47079.html
Part 2
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47081.html

You may never buy a new video card ever again. Actually, the only PC gaming hardware you might ever need will cost you less than a Wii, should OnLive's potential live up to its promise.

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OnLive is a new video games on demand service that may just change the way you play PC games. The brainchild of Rearden Studios founder Steve Perlman, formerly of Atari, Apple, WebTV and more, and Mike McGarvey, formerly of Eidos, the technology looks to revolutionize the way computer games are brought home. Instead of spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on the latest video game hardware that will make games like Crysis playable at nearly maxed settings, let OnLive's servers handle the processing. All that's required is a low cost "micro console" or a low end PC and a broadband internet connection.

Yes, even your sub $500 netbook or MacBook can play processor intensive, GPU demanding PC games. In fact, that's the whole point. How does it work?

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The concept is simple. Your controller input isn't going from your hand to the controller to the machine in front of you, it's going from your hand to the controller through the internet to OnLive's machines then back again as streamed video. Whether you're using a USB gamepad, Bluetooth wireless controller, or tried and true keyboard and mouse, the processing and output happens on OnLive's side, then is fed back to your terminal, with the game "perceptually" played locally.

In other words, it's cloud computed gaming.

Using patented video compression in tandem with algorithms that compensate for lag, jitter and packet loss, OnLive delivers video at up to 720p resolution at frame rates up to 60 frames per second. Of course, the quality of the video feed relies on your connection.

For standard definition television quality, a broadband connection of at least 1.5 megabits per second is required. For HDTV resolution, a connection of at least 5 mbps is needed.

What about lag, you say? OnLive's technology "incubator" Rearden Studios claims that its servers will deliver video feeds that have a ping of less than one millisecond. Its patented video compression technique is also advertised as blazing fast, with video compression taking about one millisecond to process.

That speedy delivery of video game content means more than just video games on demand, it means no install times. It also means cross-platform compatibility, the ability to try demos instantly, and an opportunity to rent or play games almost instantaneously.

It also means real-time streaming of video feeds from players far and wide playing their own games at home via OnLive which could ultimately mean broadcast style feeds to observers. Up to a million, according to OnLive reps.

The best part? It already has serious buy-in from major publishers, including EA, THQ, Codemasters, Ubisoft, Atari, Warner Bros., Take-Two, and Epic Games. Oh, and 2D Boy.

The appeal on the publisher side is that it essentially means less opportunity for profit-whittling piracy. There's little modification on the developer side to make a game run with OnLive. There's even an SDK available. On the consumer side, the prospect of no cheating—or at least heavily reduced cheating—is also desirable.

OnLive is showing 16 of the games planned for the service this week at GDC, some of them playable on low-spec machines, the kind of Dell your grandmother might buy.

Of course, they'll also be playable on OnLive's micro console, a simple, low-cost device that's about the size of your hand. It's simple tech—there's not even a GPU in the device. It simply acts as a video decoding control hub, with two USB inputs and support for four Bluetooth devices, and outputs audio and video via optical and HDMI connections. The micro console is expected to be priced competitively, "significantly less" than any current generation console on the market and potentially "free" with an OnLive service contract.
Plans for a monthly subscription are in the works, said to be priced on par with Xbox Live fees, offering the same community and multiplayer features popularized by Microsoft's gaming service. Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the unified OnLive community is the option to save and upload Brag Clips, a 15 second replay of, well, whatever just happened in-game.

We too were a little suspicious of OnLive's capability to deliver perceptually lag-free on-demand games. But then we played a hasty online game of Crysis Wars on the service today and became a little less suspicious. It seemed to work. Obviously, it was in a controlled environment with only a few hundred internal beta testers populating the system. But it worked.

Will it work in the wild? It might. OnLive is currently beta testing internally, with an external beta planned for Summer and a launch later this year. Expected to be deployed by launch will be five server centers hosting the latest and greatest games—OnLive isn't aiming to be GameTap, with no immediate plans to host archival PC games. Server clusters will be located in Santa Clara, Texas, Virginia and elsewhere, hoping to offer OnLive subscribers within 1,000 miles a seemingly lag-free experience.

We'll be testing the service later this week, letting you know what we thought.


Arvuti(tavaline) või telekas + Internet = Mängi mänge,ei pea installima ega downloadmima.Osta mäng ja mängi kohe.Crysis läheb vana arvutile peale jne...

BETA TULEB SUVEL

[Mafia]

Huvitav asi, aga see eeldab head neti ma usun, aga ma ei usu et see asi väga läbi läheb, nvidia, intel, amd/ati ja teised gaming hardweri tootjad ei laseks seda läbi kui see ka töötaks nii nagu kirjeldatud

[-Superman-]

[Mafia]

[O]

720p on arvuti peal mängides kergelt öeldes saast pilt ja isegi selle edastamiseks oleks vaja 5mbps sünkroonühendust, milline Eestis on vast paaril protsendil internetikasutajatest

[Valdars]

Konks on selles, et praegused võrgud ei ole võimelised sellist asja vedama.

[-Superman-]

[SKG]

nagu seda täna juba varem arutatud sai, siis sellisel kujul tolle OnLive teenuse töötamine suure kahtluse all. suurest lag-ist ei pääse mitte kuidagi mööda.

kes nüüd vastu soovib vaielda, siis enne tehke oma käsurida lahti (Start -> Run... -> cmd) ja kirjutage sinna näiteks "tracert www.google.com" ja tõmmake omad paralleelid.

seega praeguse seisuga ütleks, et tegu rohkem ümmarguse marketingijutu kui mitte vaporwarega.

[lawrey]

[-Superman-]

[Valdars]

[SKG]

-Superman-, jah ei pääse. füüsika õpik kätte vutvutvutt.

[-Superman-]

[SKG]

-Superman-, lag on ja jääb. ega nad siis võrgusõlmedest mööda ei pääse. mõtle nüüd loogiliselt.

edit:
ja mis siis veel juhtub kui kõrvaltoas väikevend torrenti käima tõmbab? fps kukub 10 peale ja reso 2x väiksemaks?

[wicked]

-Superman-, sa usud kõiki müügimehi? Kes siis enne oma tootest kehvasti rääkinud on. Kohtvõrgus oleks see veel võimalik, demotakse nagunii samas võrgus asuvate serveritega.

[-Superman-]

[SKG]

polegi vaja oodata, juba praegu näha, mis sest tuleb kui vähegi võrgundusest midagi jagad.

[Mario.]

Nunnu.. kuid liiga väike resolutsioon.

[-Superman-]

[Mario.]

Ikkagi EI.. - muidugi aja pikku internet ja kiirused arenevad. Minu jaoks on 720p madal... Subjektiivne.
Spectate mode on kena pluss muidugi.
Palju xbox live maksab kuus?

[piimaPAKK]

[SKG]

[lightbluefox]

Paistab et OnLive promojad on ühe meie seast juba suutnud ära võrgutada
Mina arvan, et teretulnud lahendus, kui sa mängid harva, aga tahaks paljusid mänge proovida ja ei oma suurt rahkotti et pidevalt arvutit uuendada, on see hea valik.

Ma ei julgeks küll midagi lubada, et ta konsooli ja/või pc mängurlust tapma hakkab, aga müügile avaldab kindlasti mõju.


Harvale mängijale oleks siis see lahendus super, kutsud sõbrad külla, rendid õhtuks filmi asmele ühe ralli ja maksad mõned dollarid. Ei pea ostma selle mängu pärast konsooli ega võimast arvutit (millele tuleb mäng paigaldada ja seadistada).

[Inim]

Server clusters will be located in Santa Clara, Texas, Virginia and elsewhere, hoping to offer OnLive subscribers within 1,000 miles a seemingly lag-free experience.

[piimaPAKK]

[SKG]

[piimaPAKK]

[SKG]

[wicked]

piimaPAKK, ja lahti pakib suvaline netbook?

[-Superman-]

[SKG]

[iDemon]

Praegu on see fail. Maybe 2015, kui kiire nett on kõigile taskukohane ja üldse kättesaadav, praegu aga raudne ei.
Engadgeti kommentaatoritest rääkis ka keegi sellest vahemaa värgist.

[rere252]

See asi saab tõenäoliselt mingil hetkel M$-lt süüdistuse... hint: Live.
OnLive ise tundub küll revolutsiooniline ja kui see jors seal videotes jama ei ajanud, et läägi vabadus on saavutatud 7 aasta pikkuse tööga, võib asi isegi toimida. Kui toimib siis on OnLive vägagi .

[rem4605]

Väärt idee poistel ikkagi

Aga jahhh, praegu tundub võimatu, aga eks näis suvel siis

[DeTHiCa.]

see on mingi huumor teema siin. esimene aprill juba nii vara käes see aasta?
selliseid lubadusi loopida... ulme.

[G80]

Idee on huvitav aga jah niipea sellest välja küll midagi ei tule.

[XNDR]

Lag on musthave sellise asja puhul. Lisaks tundub veel, et multiplayer mängud saavad olema suht piiratud võimalustega kui internet on niigi hõivatud pildi edastamisega.
Eks aeg edasi näitab mis sellest üritusest välja kujuneb.

[ufo56]

Võrgu kiirus peaks küll 5-6gbit VÄHEMALT olema. Ja pluss suured vahemaad. Ei kujuta ette kuidas küll see toimima hakkaks. Üldiselt suht esimese aprilli uudis

[SKG]

asi pole niivõrd võrgu kiiruses kui stabiilses ühenduses ja viiteaegades

teine asi on ka see, et pead leppima teenusepakkuja ettemääratud mänguvalikuga

[DeTHiCa.]

lisaks siis sellele et mängud oleks kõik siis vanilla versioonid... vahest ongi just MODid mis mängu heaks teevad. ja mis riistvaratootjatest saaksid? ati ja nvidia hakkavad võrgukaableid ja -kaarte tootma?
süvendaksid sellega ainult töötust ja majanduskriisi.

[rere252]

[-Superman-]

[wicked]

-Superman- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom_(game_system)#Financial_Problems Huvitav kust see $62.7m algselt tekkis?
Suur mull tuleb tekitada, et ikka rohkem nutsu kokku kraapida. Kiitmise järgi oleks sa nagu oma raha sinna paigutanud..

[SKG]

Euroopas serverid? kõik mängud vahemikus 2006-2009? ehk viitad sellele infole?

saa nüüd aru, et olgu see Interneti kiirus sul 5Mbps või 15Mbps - lag jääb - see ei kao kuskile. näiteks mul on kodus 15Mbps ühendus ja tööl kõigest 4Mbps, aga kodus on ping Eesti serveritesse 2-3x suurem kui tööl.

[beastbeats]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/24/gdc09-rearden-studios-introduces-onlive-game-service-and-micro/

[Ho Ho]

[prtv]

Mina aga märgin teema ära ning vaatan kuidas te siin kaklete.

Tahes tahtmata tuleb tõdeda, et vägagi hea idee aga, et kindel olla peab ise katsuma asja.

[marco]

[blas]

64k ought to be enough RAM for anybody...ehk kui lähtuks ainult tänastest võimalustest ja oskustest siis homseid lahendusi ei tulekski

[Mafia]

~6h pärast 7pm kohaliku ajajärgi hakkab pressikas. Gamespot kannab üle
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