Spezz, Seda tehnoloogiat ei ole lihtsalt igale mehele kodus kättesaadavaks tehtud. Miks ei ole video BS ja miks me võiksime seda siiski tõsiselt võtta? Aga lihtsalt seepärast, et Texases mitmes linnas olevate kontoritega advokaadibüroo (link saidile on YT kontoomaniku andmetes) ei saa endale lubada täieliku möla ajamist. Nende reputatsioon maksab rohkem, kui see 387K vaatamist. _________________ The biggest delusion is that there are causes other than your own state of consciousness. - Neville Goddard
Mitu korda see tüüp ütles cops? Tundub foobia, ei tule mingi patrull sind skännima, pigem mingi stalker või kompra koguja, politseil muudki teha.
See tehniline pool jäi ka vähe segaseks, kui oled otse saatja ja vastuvõtje vahel siis saab mingi häirituse mustri üles võtta, aga siis kah mingit erilise antenniga asjandust vaja mis imepisikeste ruuminurkae vahel märkimisväärset selektiivsust omab. Age kuskilt tänavalt suvalisest punktist? Lükake ümber. _________________ Ma ei saa sellest aru, järelikult on see vale.
See wifiga jälitamine on ju nõks nõrgem argument kui enamusel on nutitelefon kaasas, valdavalt USA tehnoloogiale alluv, kus USA tehnoloogiafirmad (Microsoft, Google, Apple, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, kuni sotsiaalmeediaplatvormideni) on allutatud koostööle USA rahvusliku julgeoleku vajadustest lähtuvalt. Nii nagu hr Snowdeni paljastused näitasid on NSA-l reaalajas ligipääs enamiku maailma inimeste toimetustele kes USA tehnoloogiat kasutavad.
Selles vaates ei ole ju enam imelik kui suudetakse nt Iraani kindralite ja kõrgemate juhtide magamistuppa rakett sisse lennutada. Kuidagi teatakse loetud minuti täpsusega kus olulised sihtmärgid viibivad, vaevalt see binokli ja morsega lahendatud on. Kui kõik kasutavad moodsaid nutipluti lahendusi mille ots on USA käes, ei ole imestada. Kuidas see USA 2022 aastal praalis, et kogu maailm on neil peo peal, sh Hiina ja Venemaa, ainult Põhja-Koreaga olla raskusi, sest seal interneti ja moodsa tehnikaga on kitsas
Kui olla laia internetti ühendatud, on kindel, et moel või teisel oled nuhitav.. _________________ ---
elukaz, Tehniline pool jäi segaseks, sest see ei ole avalik. Pealegi ei ole rääkija tehnilise taustaga, vaid selgitab asja juriidilist tahku. Ta teab fakti ennast ja milliseid võimalusi see pakub.
Aga 'cops' on täiesti neutraalne kõnekeelne sõna (erinevalt eestikeelsest 'võmmist', millel on teatav negatiivne varjund). Ta oleks ju võinud kasutada 'police officeri', kuid see kaugendaks ta vaatajast. Ma millegipärast usun, et teatud tingimustel kasutaks ta 'copsi' isegi kohtus. _________________ The biggest delusion is that there are causes other than your own state of consciousness. - Neville Goddard
See on hirm sellise süvariigi ees kus politsei on kõige kurja esindaja, meie vs nemad. Nagu tegelt, kui nt su telefoni või läpakakaamera on haavatav, kas tõesti on mingi politseinik esimene mis pähe tuleb kes sinna sisse häkib? Et kui leiab kuidagi tõestust et politsei seda ei tee siis süda kergem?
Tehniline pool on veits vandenõuhõnguline, selline termokaameralaadne pilt võib olla saavutatav laboritingimustes natuke suurema kui taskusse mahtuva klotsi täpsel paigutusel. samas ruumis otsenähtavusega. _________________ Ma ei saa sellest aru, järelikult on see vale.
elukaz, Tehniline pool jäi segaseks, sest see ei ole avalik. Pealegi ei ole rääkija tehnilise taustaga, vaid selgitab asja juriidilist tahku. Ta teab fakti ennast ja milliseid võimalusi see pakub.
Aga 'cops' on täiesti neutraalne kõnekeelne sõna (erinevalt eestikeelsest 'võmmist', millel on teatav negatiivne varjund). Ta oleks ju võinud kasutada 'police officeri', kuid see kaugendaks ta vaatajast. Ma millegipärast usun, et teatud tingimustel kasutaks ta 'copsi' isegi kohtus.
Tehniline pool jäi segaseks, sest reaalselt kasutatavat asja pole olemas tänase seisuga. On mingi varjude teatrid laboris, kus mingi info on töödeldud ja mingi tulemus saadud.
Juriidilisele poolele ei vaidle vastu, nii paraku need asjad on.
Aga tehniline pool seal videos on härjasitt - eriti see osa "kuidas vältida".
No ei ole ruuterites selliseid asju sisse-välja lülitamiseks. Ja see ei klapi ka väidetava tehnoloogia endaga. Kui tehnoloogia on olemas siis piisab naabri(te) ruuteri(te)st, et sama pilt ette saada. Enda ruuteris millegi välja lülitamine oleks nullkasuga. Seega täiesti clickbait video kohutavalt häiriva tehnilise ebakompetentsusega koos paanika õhutamisega.
EDIT: samas klassis igivana tehnikaga, kus 2014 aastal räägiti, et akna vibratsioonist on võimalik su klaviatuuri keystroked välja lugeda. No ei ole sellest saanud mingit asja.
See on äge vidin(eriti just koduse presence sensori kontekstis) aga ei puutu absoluutselt teemasse. Igasuguseid lisaseadmeid võib uurimisasutus vajadusel su ruumidesse varrukast puistata ja nende abil kõik vajaliku teada saada. Hetkel on siiski jutt sellest, et su liikumist on väidetavalt võimalik ruumiväliselt olemasoleva wifi kaudu jälgida.
Küsisin AIdelt: 'Do any modern Wi-Fi routers have these settings: Wi-Fi Motion, Presence Detection, Home Awareness, Smart Monitoring?'
Gemini vastus:
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Yes, several modern Wi-Fi routers and gateways support these settings. These features are part of a growing technology called Wi-Fi Sensing.
TechRadar
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Instead of relying on cameras or dedicated motion sensors, Wi-Fi Sensing tracks how the physical radio waves in your home are disrupted when a person or object moves through them. This allows the router to map physical activity passively.
Kaspersky
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The settings you mentioned appear across a few specific smart home and networking ecosystems:
1. Xfinity Gateways (Xfinity Home Awareness)
If you use a gateway provided by Comcast Xfinity, you have direct access to most of these exact terms. Xfinity leverages Wi-Fi Sensing to turn your router and connected smart devices into a passive home security mesh.
Wi-Fi Motion & Presence Detection: Xfinity uses your gateway and at least one always-on, stationary smart device (like a smart speaker or plug) to create "coverage zones." It measures the signals passing between them to identify when a human walks through the room.
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Home Awareness & Smart Monitoring: In the Xfinity app, you will find a "Home Awareness" card. Activating it turns on the Wi-Fi Motion system, allowing you to monitor real-time activity and receive push notifications on your phone if movement is detected while you are away.
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Compatibility: This is built natively into the Xfinity Advanced Gateway (XB7 model or later).
Xfinity
2. Linksys Cognitive Mesh Routers
Linksys features a technology called Linksys Cognitive Mesh across its newest generation of hardware.
Linksys Support
Smart Monitoring & Optimizations: While Linksys previously partnered with software like Linksys Shield for motion sensing, their new "Cognitive" tech focuses heavily on self-learning and automatic environmental monitoring. It constantly evaluates device connections and signal interference to optimize your network's coverage layout based on how people move and utilize the space.
Linksys
Recommended Models: * Linksys Velop Pro 6E: A Wi-Fi 6E system that uses cognitive technology to continuously optimize mesh connectivity across up to 200 devices without data tracking.
Linksys Velop Pro 7: Built on the faster Wi-Fi 7 standard, it relies on the same self-learning backend to automate smart network monitoring.
Claude AI Opus 4.8 (Fable-ist ei ole ikka veel midagi kuulda ):
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Short answer: three of those four are real, shipping features—and under the hood they're all the same parlor trick wearing different hats. The fourth is a bit of a red herring.
The technology is called Wi-Fi sensing. Your router already measures its own signal with almost absurd precision—a technique called beamforming—just to keep your connection humming along. When a person or a dog passes between the router and a stationary device, the shape of the radio signal changes slightly, and the router is sensitive enough to detect that. No camera, no extra hardware. Echolocation for the smart-home set. Kaspersky
Now, to your four labels:
Wi-Fi Motion — the genuine article. It's both Cognitive Systems' patented WiFi Motion™ detection software and the consumer-facing name Comcast uses on Xfinity. It runs on the Advanced Xfinity Gateway and your existing Wi-Fi-connected devices to sense motion, and sends push notifications when enabled—available to Xfinity Internet customers who lease an Advanced Gateway (the XB7 or later, plus at least one stationary Wi-Fi device to act as a passive sensor). One thing worth flagging: it's sparked privacy worries, stemming largely from Xfinity's own description of the feature, so it's not without its critics. businesswire + 3
Home Awareness — also real, and this one belongs to Verizon. It lets Fios customers enable select router models to detect disruptions in the home Wi-Fi signal and flag unexpected motion through the My Fios app. Just one Fios router is known to be compatible—the G3100, paired with the E3200 extender—and the feature is free. phonearena
Presence Detection — real, but it's the engineer's term rather than any single brand's marketing name. It's the umbrella capability ("is someone in this space?"), and it's being formally written into the next Wi-Fi standard. The IEEE is actively developing 802.11bf, a standard specifically designed to formalize Wi-Fi sensing—motion detection, gesture recognition, presence sensing. So you'll see it described that way in technical contexts and app menus, but it isn't a flagship product label. Stateofsurveillance
Smart Monitoring — this is the odd duck. It's not a hallmark router feature the way the other three are; it floats around as a generic descriptor. Cognitive Systems, for instance, bundles the use cases as home monitoring, wellness monitoring, and smart home automation. If you spotted it as a literal settings toggle, it's almost certainly a particular vendor's house term rather than a standardized feature you'll find across brands. businesswire
A quick footnote, because this corner of the market moves fast: Linksys actually got there first, positioning its Aware feature as a subscription back in 2019, but the service was discontinued in mid-2024. And the appetite is clearly growing—in February 2026, home-security company ADT acquired Origin Wireless, one of the pioneers, for $170 million in cash to build Wi-Fi sensing into its products. So expect these labels to multiply rather than settle down. KasperskySubstack
If you've got a specific router or ISP in mind, say the word and I'll pin down exactly what it's called there and which models support it.
Chat GPT, 5.5:
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Yes — but not usually under all those exact names, and not usually in ordinary off-the-shelf router settings.
What you are describing is generally called Wi-Fi sensing or Wi-Fi motion detection. It uses changes in Wi-Fi radio signals between the router/mesh nodes and connected devices to infer motion or presence. It is a real thing, not sci-fi nonsense, though it is still a bit “drawing-room experimental” compared with a proper PIR/mmWave motion sensor.
Brand / system
What it’s called
Notes
Xfinity Advanced Gateway XB7 or later
WiFi Motion
Available to Xfinity Internet customers leasing a compatible gateway. Uses the gateway plus stationary Wi-Fi devices to create motion zones. Xfinity explicitly says it is not a home security service.
Linksys Velop / some mesh systems
Linksys Aware
Subscription-style feature launched for mesh Wi-Fi, using Wi-Fi signal changes to send motion alerts.
Plume HomePass / SuperPods
Sense / Home Motion / Motion Aware
Uses SuperPods and connected Wi-Fi devices to detect movement and show motion history/live motion. Often offered through ISPs rather than as a simple retail router toggle.
Cognitive Systems WiFi Motion
WiFi Motion
A software platform licensed to ISPs and router/device vendors; it turns Wi-Fi networks into motion-detection systems.
Origin Wireless / Origin AI
WiFi Sensing / TruPresence
Similar underlying idea: software interprets disruptions in Wi-Fi signal data to detect motion, occupancy, or human presence.
So: yes, some modern gateways and mesh systems have this. But with normal consumer routers from Asus, TP-Link Deco, Netgear, Eero, etc., it is not a standard checkbox like “enable WPA3” or “guest network.” More often, “presence detection” in smart-home setups just means: is Fred’s phone connected to the Wi-Fi? That is useful for Home Assistant automations, but it is not the same as Wi-Fi motion sensing.
Also, don’t confuse this with separate sensors. TP-Link Tapo, for example, sells motion and human-presence sensors such as the Tapo T100/T150, but those are dedicated smart-home sensors, not ordinary router settings. The Tapo T150 uses presence/motion/temperature/humidity/light sensing as a device feature.
The practical takeaway: look for “Wi-Fi sensing,” “WiFi Motion,” “Sense,” “Home Motion,” “Linksys Aware,” or “Motion Aware.” If the router’s app only says “smart monitoring,” that may mean network-security monitoring, parental controls, or device monitoring — not human presence detection. Marketing departments do love putting the same hat on three different horses.
Ehk siis kokkuvõttes: need tehnoloogiad on uutes ruuterites olemas. Tasub ilmselt püsida veidi vanemate mudelite kasutjate hulgas. _________________ The biggest delusion is that there are causes other than your own state of consciousness. - Neville Goddard
Blin, no istu sisse endale see AI jura. Lugesid ikka ise ka läbi, mida see võimaldab?
No ei saa politsei väljastpoolt kuidagi monitoorida, kus toas keegi on või kuhu liigub.
Ja praegusel kujul presence sensoritena(wifi vaates) on ka tegemist täieliku gimmickuga.
Ainus asi, mida täpselt suudavad kohalolekuna vaadata on see, et kas su telefon on võrku ühendatud või ei.
sa ei või postitada uusi teemasid siia foorumisse sa ei või vastata selle foorumi teemadele sa ei või muuta oma postitusi selles foorumis sa ei või kustutada oma postitusi selles foorumis sa ei või vastata küsitlustele selles foorumis sa ei saa lisada manuseid selles foorumis sa võid manuseid alla laadida selles foorumis
Hinnavaatlus ei vastuta foorumis tehtud postituste eest.
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