[Braien]

Et erinevates teemades laiali ei oleks.

[renekas]

Tundub et HD7000 peale igastahes veel optimeeritud ei ole, kohutavad fps dropid bf4-s.

[trip]

http://www.oxidegames.com/2014/02/04/new-star-swarm-build-better-mantle-performance/


http://www.pcper.com/reviews/General-Tech/Core-Mantle-Questions-Interview-AMDs-Guennadi-Riguer

[bitCON]

[1dumbpcuser]

Loodame, et EA pole oma BF4 floppidega (või noh, kuuldavasti on BF4 tervenisti üks tehniline flop olnud algusest saati) Mantle mainet kahjustanud.
Battlefield 4: AMD’s Mantle causes washed out, foggy graphics compared to DirectX
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/175998-battlefield-4-amds-mantle-causes-washed-out-foggy-graphics-compared-to-directx

Tegelik süüdlane on siiski EA:

[fragile]

Soovitan Inteli int. graafika ära keelata. Kas BIOS või siis Task Manager ja disabled.
BF4 jookseb stabiilsemalt ja Star Swarm Stress Test töötab Mantle-ga

[äss]

270x-ga BF4-s FPS tõusis umbes 20 kaadri võrra aga dropid on päris masendavad 60-lt 20-le

[Tomorrow]

Star Swarm update hoopis langetas FPS-i:
Mantle Catalyst 14.1 Beta 1.6:

[S.I.L.L.U]

Enda kogemus BF4 baasil:

SSD, HD7770 GHz Edition, ATI 14.1 beta

Win 7 - FPS tõusus umbes 8-9 ühiku võrra

Win 8.1 - Mantle või DX ei oma erinevusi. FPS on 2-3 ühiku võrra aeglasem, kui Win 7 peal DX peal olles.

[Draco]

Kopeerin oma tulemuse ka siia (test tehtud enne Star Swarm update`i)

FX 8350 @ 4.5GHz ja R9 270x:

DirectX - Extreme:

Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 10360

Average FPS: 28.77
Average Unit Count: 4106
Maximum Unit Count: 5458
Average Batches/MS: 467.85
Maximum Batches/MS: 1020.41
Average Batch Count: 18340
Maximum Batch Count: 134169

Mantle - Extreme:

Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 15125

Average FPS: 42.01
Average Unit Count: 4264
Maximum Unit Count: 5538
Average Batches/MS: 875.84
Maximum Batches/MS: 2164.61
Average Batch Count: 23338
Maximum Batch Count: 121530

[Kremka]

13.12 DX

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 15506

Average FPS: 43.07
Average Unit Count: 4218
Maximum Unit Count: 5480
Average Batches/MS: 536.89
Maximum Batches/MS: 1315.24
Average Batch Count: 13902
Maximum Batch Count: 75896
===========================================================

14.1 DX

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 10947

Average FPS: 30.40
Average Unit Count: 3953
Maximum Unit Count: 5379
Average Batches/MS: 533.36
Maximum Batches/MS: 1304.34
Average Batch Count: 19537
Maximum Batch Count: 99488
===========================================================

14.1 MANTLE

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 22144

Average FPS: 61.51
Average Unit Count: 4566
Maximum Unit Count: 5801
Average Batches/MS: 1063.19
Maximum Batches/MS: 3733.08
Average Batch Count: 20339
Maximum Batch Count: 126707
===========================================================

[Braien]

Lasin ka Star Swarm(kõige uuem update).

FX-6300 stock kelladel ja 7850 2GB

DirectX - Extreme:

[allavett]

Lisan ka oma Star Swarm tulemused siia.

AMD FX8350 @4,7GHz
Saphire Vapor-X 7970 3GB GPU@1175MHz, MEM@1675MHz

Tulemus järgmine:

Spoiler

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DirectX
Catalyst 13.11 stable
== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 8702

Average FPS: 24.17
Average Unit Count: 4224
Maximum Unit Count: 5563
Average Batches/MS: 468.01
Maximum Batches/MS: 898.64
Average Batch Count: 22652
Maximum Batch Count: 115627
===========================================================
DirectX
Catalyst 14.1 beta
== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 9471

Average FPS: 26.31
Average Unit Count: 4089
Maximum Unit Count: 5553
Average Batches/MS: 412.69
Maximum Batches/MS: 815.66
Average Batch Count: 18986
Maximum Batch Count: 148108
===========================================================
Mantle
Catalyst 14.1 beta
== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 17969

Average FPS: 49.91
Average Unit Count: 4232
Maximum Unit Count: 5577
Average Batches/MS: 900.27
Maximum Batches/MS: 2306.91
Average Batch Count: 21036
Maximum Batch Count: 120197
===========================================================
Mantle
Catalyst 14.1 beta
Star Swarm Updated
== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 17677

Average FPS: 49.10
Average Unit Count: 4463
Maximum Unit Count: 5910
Average Batches/MS: 929.42
Maximum Batches/MS: 2600.95
Average Batch Count: 21167
Maximum Batch Count: 93705
===========================================================

Lasin kõiki teste 1 korra.
Star Swarmi uuendus tulemust ei muutnud.

[liiv]

Kas keegi on kohanud testi kus näeks Crysis 3 fps Mantlega?

[bitCON]

[liiv]

Kas kuskil on mingit infot, millised mängud toetavad Mantled? Leitav info näitab põhiliselt BF4

[Aah]

Kuna asi on hetkel liiga uus siis ma liialt ei erutu. Küll aga potentsiaali on tulevikus kõvasti.

[Tomorrow]

[bitCON]

Crytek tulevased mängud

[londiste]

on keegi näinud indepth juttu mantle eelistest dx ees, mis ei keskenduks draw callidele? või eelistest opengl ees?
niikaua kuni kisa on ainult draw callide ümber - oskab keegi seletada, miks praktiliselt sama kiiret lahendust ei saa realiseerida dx/ogl all?

üsna mitmel põhjusel ma arvan, et mantle jääb üsna lühikeseks episoodiks graafikakaartide ajaloos:
- gcn-only, ehk siis vaid 7xxx ja rx-2xx kaardid. huvitav küsimus on, mis arhitektuurilised osad täpselt on vajalikud mantle jaoks - kas järgmistele põlvkondadele on toe jaoks vaja mingeid arhitektuurilisi erisusi? 5xxx/6xxx peal ilmselgelt asi olema ei hakka.
- "open standard" jutt on bs. esiteks on see disainitud gcn tarbeks. teiseks on amd öelnud, et võib-olla kunagi tulevikus (probably maybe) teeme selle avatuks.
- kumbki konsool seda ei toeta. close enough ei ole argument kui api enda suur sales pitch on, et see on close enough dx/ogl.

[Draco]

Suur oht on NV kes võib hakata mängutegijaid ära ostma, et need ei kasutakas seda.
Kui konkurent saab järsku kuni 40% perfi juurde siis võib see närvi ajada küll...

[londiste]

carmack, sweeney and andersson unplugged • page 5: amd mantle (eurogamer)

edit:
vahetasin lingi vahendatud uudiselt transcriptile.

[Draco]

Targemad on tuleviku juba ära ennustanud:D Oleks ilmajaamades samasugused

[Jürks]

Star Swarm Stress Test

Athlon x4 740 @4,35GHz
GPU: Club3D royalKing 7850 2GB @1150/1445

14.1 DX (Extreme)
== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 10366

Average FPS: 28.79
Average Unit Count: 3826
Maximum Unit Count: 5494
Average Batches/MS: 490.48
Maximum Batches/MS: 1011.87
Average Batch Count: 19547
Maximum Batch Count: 166419
===========================================================

14.1 MANTLE (Extreme)
== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 14943

Average FPS: 41.51
Average Unit Count: 4119
Maximum Unit Count: 5498
Average Batches/MS: 738.68
Maximum Batches/MS: 6068.38
Average Batch Count: 20969
Maximum Batch Count: 112407
===========================================================

[londiste]