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Red Bull team principal Christian Horner suspects the main sticking point in contract talks between Formula One champion Lewis Hamilton and his Mercedes team is an "eye-watering" amount of money.
Asked for an opinion during a Monaco Grand Prix news conference on Thursday, Horner was sure the delay was all down to cash and what his Mercedes counterpart Toto Wolff was prepared to pay.
"I should think it’s such a grotesque amount of money that Toto is talking about, it probably is what’s making his and Niki's eyes water at the moment," he said, also referring to Niki Lauda, the Mercedes F1 non-executive chairman.
"He (Hamilton) has an expensive lifestyle. He’s a four-time world champion and I doubt he’s cheap. I can only envisage that that’s probably got something to do with the delay."
Talks between Mercedes and Hamilton, who is out of contract at the end of the year, have been going on since 2017 and have turned into something of a saga.
Kui Bottasel ei oleks esikohal rehv lõhkenud oleks driver standing esikolmik praegu
HAM: 88
BOT: 83
VET: 75
Aga kahjuks on:
HAM: 95
VET: 78
BOT: 58
Ja on kõigile selge, et HAM ei ole just karjääri kõige tugevamat algust teinud. Tipumehed sõidavad sama autoga sama kiiresti ja ei ole põhjust ühte meest kullaga üle valada. Kuigi Alonso ja Vetteli palgad olid viimati samas suurusjärgus Hamiltoniga.
EDIT: Lugesin enda postitust ja võib jääda mulje, et olen suur Hamiltoni fänn, et ka Bottase Baku võidu puhul oleks ta esimene ja vaatamata nõrgale hooaja algusele. Aga ei... ei ole Hamiltoni fänn, eelistan just näha tema kaotust kellelegi suvalisele, sest ta on nii halb kaotaja, et ajab naerma. Ja mul on Mercedese domineerimise ajast ka siiber. Kõige eelistatum ongi kui kuldne poiss saab ausas konkurentsis oma tiimikaaslase käest sisse.
Monaco GP - Preview - Updated
2018-05-27 00:00:00 (This report was created at 2018-05-21 12:52:24)
Monaco, the ’jewel in the F1 crown’…….or is it? In terms of racing, spectacle and entertainment…no. Singapore is more glamorous in terms of visuals. Azerbaijan provides more exciting races and Singapore has bypassed Monaco in terms of where the money men and women go to do the big deals. Monaco is a bit like a fading British seaside town. Full of history but getting past its best by date. It isn’t suited to these big, wide, fast, modern F1 cars and it isn’t really a race. It’s about qualifying and then seeing how the inevitable safety car deployments affect the outcome.
The circuit is slow and twisty with nothing resembling a proper straight. It’s all about slow speed performance, traction, grip, drivers staying out of the barriers and not tangling with other cars. It can be a real lottery and luck plays an unacceptably large part in the result.
What it isn’t about is power. An under-powered car can win if it performs well in slow corners. This brings in the Renault powered cars and even Honda can be expected to perform on a more equal footing than on almost every other circuit on the calendar.
The Spanish GP at Barcelona was won easily by Hamilton and his Mercedes but this is a completely different challenge. Barcelona has it all, slow corners, medium speed corners, fast corners and straights which reward power. Monaco just has slow corners combined with virtually no margin for error. It is not a great test of machine but it is a massive test for the driver. Drive the perfect lap and the driver is greatly rewarded, drive a poor one and your race can be over. The human input is bigger here than anywhere else.
In its long history, Monaco has produced many multiple race winners. It is a specialist’s circuit and past form is a very important guide. In short, this is a driver’s circuit and not a car circuit. A winning car still needs to be reliable and to have good capabilities in a very high downforce configuration but if the driver is reckless then it doesn’t matter how good the car is suited to the track, the result will be retirement.
Barcelona does give us one very big hint as to who should be good around the Monaco circuit and that is the cars performance in sector three of the Circuit de Catalunya which is a low speed layout which mimics the demands of Monaco.
The times recorded there during the Spanish GP showed that it was the Red Bull which was fastest in that sector. Daniel Ricciardo was fastest in both qualifying and the race, not by much, but faster. Hamilton was 0.06 slower than Ricciardo in S3 in the race, Vettel 0.38 along with Bottas. Magnussen was best of the rest, 0.63 slower in the race while Sainz was best of the rest in qualifying, 0.52 off Ricciardo’s time. The Red Bulls performance advantage was greater in qualifying than in the race which is a better measure of pure pace and it is the Australian who should be favourite as a result. He also scores well on past performance.
Ricciardo has yet to win at Monaco but he has had the misfortune to be carrying the unbearable weight of my money on his back. The worst was in 2016 when he qualified on pole position, built up a very comfortable lead but was royally shafted by his own team who had the wrong tyres ready to put on his car for his second stop. A very long pitstop ensued and he re-joined the race just behind Hamilton and it being the narrow goat track that is Monaco, there was no chance to pass on track despite having the faster car. Ricciardo has had three podium finishes from his last four Monaco GP’s and he loves the challenge of Monaco.
Teammate Verstappen on the other hand has not mastered it. Two crashes from three with a best finish of 5th last year is disappointing for such a talented driver but his lack of maturity is a weakness on such an unforgiving track. The fact that he has made contact with another car in each of this season’s five races is further discouragement for his chances this weekend.
Vettel and Hamilton have both won twice here with one pole position a piece which is good…but hardly up there with Schumacher or Senna or Prost or Graham Hill for example. Hamilton’s two wins have had large slices of good fortune and in recent seasons his dominant Mercedes has struggled around this circuit. Its long wheel base layout isn’t best suited to slower twisty circuits and it isn’t just Monaco where it has underperformed. Toto Wolff has admitted that they are worried that the same thing will apply again and he is tipping Red Bull to be the car to beat for the very reason’s given here.
Kimi Raikkonen was the surprise pole sitter here last season and with Vettel just 0.04 off Ricciardo’s sector 3 qualifying time in Barcelona two weeks ago it, maybe the Ferrari which will be Red Bulls main challenger this weekend. Ferrari were disappointing in the Spanish GP, initially blaming the modified Pirelli tyres but finally admitting that it was not the case. The cooler track temperatures were much more likely to have hindered them. The weather forecast at this point suggests we will have pleasant, sunny and warm conditions for the whole week ahead so expect the red cars to be a bigger threat this time round.
Ricciardo could do everything right this weekend and still not win, as was the case in 2016, that is the nature of this circuit. For that reason it is risky going in big on him however attractive his odds look, but when your books favourite is only the third favourite in the market it’s hard to just leave it be. Somebody has to win and Ricciardo is the logical choice.
4 points Daniel Ricciardo to win @ 6.00 generally available
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Of the outsiders looking for a decent result Carlos Sainz tickles my fancy. He is a tidy driver who knows how to bring his car home which is very important around Monaco. He has finished 10th, 8th and 6th in his three F1 races here and he has finished every race this season, four times in the points with one top 6. His qualifying performances have been good, making Q3 in all five races so far this season and with a high attrition rate of 6.10 DNF’s per race over the last ten years, just being in the running come the end of this race can be worth much gold.
At Monaco Sainz has qualified 8th in 2015, 7th in 2016 and 6th in 2017. Very impressive for a driver outside of the top teams. Compare that to team mate Hulkenberg who has just one top 10 qualifying performance from the last five seasons. Given that Sainz has made Q3 in every race in 2018 he looks a driver who could have a good weekend given a clear round.
Another of the midfield drivers with an impressive Monaco CV is Perez. His qualifying form for the last five years reads 7/10/7/8/7. His finishing record is not so good with just two points finishes, 7th in 2015 and 3rd in 2016. He has only made Q3 twice this season and it’s fair to say that Force India are not quite as impressive as they have been in recent seasons as the competition has become stronger. The car wasn’t great in sector three at Barcelona, 10th quickest in the race and just 15th in qualifying.
Kevin Magnussen has two 10th place Monaco finishes to his credit and he has a much better car at his disposal in 2018. His qualifying performances this season sees him best of the rest outside of the big three, just a fraction better than Sainz. His Haas showed up well in sector 3 in the Spanish GP, 6th quickest, again just ahead of Sainz, but he was only 9th fastest in qualifying. The Dane has made Q3 here just once in the last five years so it is hard to call him a specialist but with the Haas looking a decent performer across the board in 2018 he can be considered for a good weekend. However, his ‘elbows out’ aggressive racing style will have to be moderated around this track if he is to add to his points tally.
The two outsiders who seem to have the best credentials to benefit from any attrition amongst the top three are Sainz and Magnussen. They have qualified well this season, have cars that were decent in sector three at Barcelona and have some good Monaco GP form. The odds? It must be said that some of the odds for drivers to finish in the top six are bizarrely short. Could it be that just about every bookie has copied the first ones they have seen? It’s just really surprising that there are so few, if even more than one, who seem to have done their own work and complied their own odds. One day they will copy a price that is way to big hopefully!
2 points Carlos Sainz to finish in the top 6 @ 3.50 with Sportingbet
1 Point Magnussen to finish in the top 6 @ 6.00 with Sportingbet
2018-05-26 00:00:00 (This report was written at 2018-05-26 12:46:21)
Red Bull have totally dominated the weekend so far with Ricciardo fastest in all three practice sessions and setting a new lap record in both FP2 and FP3. Teammate Verstappen was putting some pressure on him in FP3 but he did what Max does at Monaco and smashed his car into the barrier, late in the session and leaving his mechanics with a big job of work to do. Will they be able to repair the car in time? Very probably, the damage was almost entirely front right and not the more complicated rear end. However, will the car feel just like it did in FP3 before he crashed? That’s the $64,000 question but it is far from an ideal preparation.
The rest? Their only realistic hope of pole position is if both Red Bulls suffer an accident or horrible bad luck with things like a red flag in Q1 just as they are about to set a time, or they both crash out. This is Monaco and nothing is impossible but on performance there is only one team in contention for pole. It is not a power circuit so Ferrari and Mercedes can turn up the boost button and maybe close the gap by a tiny fraction but finding over 0.23? No.
Ricciardo is now just 1.83 having been 3.50 this morning; Verstappen is 3.75 with a couple of firms which could be a great price if the car takes to the track 100% ready. I have to confess to have missed a trick with Ricciardo for pole. Perhaps being aware of the risks involved at this track I avoided putting too many eggs in the Australians basket but at least we look in a good position for Sunday.
Outside of the top three teams it is ridiculously close for those looking to make Q3. Renault, Toro Rosso, McLaren and Sergei Sirotkin are all capable. Force India have slowly dropped down the pecking order as the weekend has gone on and Haas are having a mare. Williams could luck into a point or two this weekend. Their cars dreadful aerodynamic problems seem less critical, with the driver having more input and mechanical grip being the important factors. It must be said that Sirotkin has been performing well, making 10th in two practice sessions while part team owner’s son, Lance Stroll, has averaged 17.6 position. He is being found out here. It’s like some kid being allowed to play with Daddies train set. F1 is supposed to be the home of the best drivers in the world but Stroll is making a mockery of that.
I was hopeful of a few qualifying bets but it seems the bookies don’t really bother with anything more than simple pole position bets anymore. Sirotkin to make Q3 (just 4.50 with Coral/Ladbrokes) would have been interesting to see and somebody could construct a great group bet for qualifying with such a packed midfield but obviously the computer says no.
Sportingbet have at least tried all weekend and have been keen to get Ricciardo but the 2.10 after FP3 was too big to last. They have put up various match bets and there is one at a decent price which may be worth taking.
Renault has been steady with Sainz all weekend. The Spaniard has made the top ten in all three sessions while Hulkenberg has been a bit in and out. However the car has top 10 pace and Hulkenberg’s final run in FP3 was ruined by the red flag caused by Verstappen’s accident. The same may be said of a few drivers but Hulkenberg should make be able to make Q3.
McLaren have also been a bit in and out in practice and Alonso has been slower than Hulkenberg in all sessions, in fact Alonso has been slower than Vandoorne in every session so far. It’s risky taking on the great Alonso on a drivers track but he will have to improve on what he has shown so far.
1 point Hulkenberg to out qualify Alonso @ 1.95 with Sportingbet
1 points Vandoorne to out qualify Alonso @ 3.50 with Ladbrokes
1 point Hulkenberg to out qualify Perez @ 1.90 with Ladbrokes
Hopefully there will be some more imaginative markets come race day and the final update will be posted around 1 hour before race time.
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2018-05-27 00:00:00 (This report was written at 2018-05-27 11:33:33)
There were a few surprises in yesterday’s qualifying, most notably the two Force India’s coming from back of the midfield obscurity to 6th and 9th. Alonso finds himself 7th having struggled all weekend to set a top 10 time but there was never any doubt as who was going to be on pole position.
It was new lap record after new lap record for Red Bull’s Ricciardo and he is in the best car, starting from the best place and the only thing stopping him is that this is Monaco. All sorts of shit can happen. Ricciardo had the race at his mercy in 2016 when his own team cost him the race by having the wrong tyres ready for his pit stop. They owe him one big time as does the track…but things don’t work like that.
Ricciardo has to be drive a perfect race, lead from the first corner, build a lead, look after his tyres as well as possible, not crash and then hope that safety cars don’t allow the others back into the race through no fault of his own. Pole position is very important here….but the pole position driver has not won this race since 2014……
Tyres…..as usual are the main talking point. This is the first time we have seen the hypersoft compound used and it has been a qualified success so far…but all is not going as thought. Pirelli were confident that the low demands of this circuit would allow a long stint even on the new compound but most of the teams have found that not to be the case. Mercedes in particular were struggling after a handful of laps with Ferrari not far behind. The Red Bulls on the other hand were fairly comfortable and look like they will be able to run longer on the faster compound before needing to change. From a leading position, that plays into Ricciardo’s hands perfectly. He can employ the rarely seen ‘overcut’ at the first stop. Stay out longer and improve his lead.
The Aussie is now around the 1.50 mark and having backed him at 6.00, bearing in mind this is Monaco, covering your stake by laying off is a sensible thing to do at a low cost but he really is holding all the aces and if we get a relatively uneventful race then it should be a comfortable win.
The tyres will play a big part in who is going to be picking up the lesser points or put themselves into a position of picking up bigger points if any of the top 5 cars have problems. All the cars from 11th and back can choose their compounds and the logical things to do is to start on the more durable ultra-soft compound and aim for a 1 stop race. The cars in front, all on hypersoft are expected to pit within 9 or 10 laps and that puts them on a two stop strategy. The inevitable safety car(s) makes that a less than simple plan, somebody will get lucky, some will get shafted but having one less top should be an advantage.
Of course it is an assumption that the hypersoft tyre will be unusable after a few laps. The track at Monaco evolves at a rapid rate, from being very low grip on Thursday to being very grippy on Sunday after all the race cars have put down lots of rubber. How often have we seen Pirelli predicting that the ‘cliff’ is just a few laps away and then we get a car doing half the race on the tyre.
Looking at the grid, we have Hulkenberg starting on the ‘second pole’, 11th place. The leader of the pack on a different strategy. He was disappointing yesterday and he has been second best to team mate Sainz all weekend. His record here isn’t eye-catching and he comes here under a little pressure. Sainz is starting to show his true worth, while Hulkenberg has back to back DNF’s. Hulkenberg is no spring chicken and there are plenty of good young drivers who are looking at his Renault seat. The German needs to up his game.
Vandoorne starts 12th in the McLaren and he is another who needs to make an impression on F1. He has looked nothing like his hype of a couple of years ago. In an impressive 13th is young Sergei Sirotkin in the Williams. That is the worst car on the grid without any doubt and he deserves great credit for his performance this weekend. He hasn’t been far off the pace of the top 10 and like the hapless Stroll scoring points in the Azerbaijan lottery, Sirotkin may not have a better chance to score a well-deserved point than in this race. The fact the he won three Formula Renault races here in his junior days suggests that the track suits his eye. He was actually disappointed not to make Q3 so he is clearly well dialled in this weekend.
1 point Sirotkin to finish in the points @ 4.33 with William Hill
The impressive Leclerc starts 14th and he is another young driver making the likes of Hulkenberg and Grosjean look past their used by date. His is his real home race being a genuine Monegasque. The car however doesn’t look comfortable around here and he may have over produced yesterday.
The rest of the bottom half of the field don’t look to have the pace to really take advantage of having the better tyre strategy. Hartley has a decent car for this track but starting 15th isn’t great and to be fair he hasn’t impressed much this season.
Max Verstappen starts at the very back having trashed his Red Bull in FP3 and was not able to take part in qualifying. Young Max has a great talent but he has reached a fork in his career road, at least within Red Bull. Either he modifies his driving style, shows some maturity…or he forks off. He has the best car at his disposal today and even at Monaco you can make up ground if you have such a big performance gap to the cars around you. You do need to be smart however and one thing Verstappen has never been around here is smart. He has crashed at least once every time he has driven a F1 car here.
He must be expected to finish in the points, a top 6 would be pretty good and a podium would absolve him of all sins…but he is just as likely to park it in the scenery again. He will be trying to make amends, ring the cars neck and that is high risk. Does he have the ability to change, to turn it down a bit, use race craft rather than pure instinct? The jury is out but a guilty verdict is on the cards. I am not sure that having his father, Jos Verstappen, advising him is going to help much either. He wasn’t exactly a deep thinker with a steady hand on the tiller when he was driving. The fact is that Verstappen has collided with another driver in every race this season, has finished just one of his three races here and he has become increasingly mistake prone as the season has gone along.
1 point Verstappen not to finish the race @ 3.50 with William Hill
1 point Verstappen to be the first driver to retire @ 17.00 with William Hill and Marathon Bet
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