[londiste]

madalama baastakti osas - madalam tdp/powerlimit ikkagi tehtud?

[anubis]

https://twitter.com/hardwarecanucks/status/891468045302083585

[Maxstpau]

Vega 56? Hmm... huvitav kuhu nVidia seljataha ta kukub. On parem kui 1070?

[anubis]

Tea, kas ürituse streami pole kuna samaaegselt kukub NDA ja kõik panevad testid üles?

https://twitter.com/hardwarecanucks/status/891483890120052736

[Diesel157]

Kas review inimestel on kaardid käes benchide jaoks? Või tuleb "launch" ja siis saavad ka review inimesed kaardid kätte

Lisaks, kui VEGA hinnad algavad $399, siis kas kaevanduse inimesed ostavad kogu stocki ära . Eriti suurt hinnavahet RX 580-ga ju pole jne...

[anubis]

Voolutarve on peaaegu 3x kõrgem, loodetavasti.

[Scart]

[cabbage]

Aga LTT? Seal videos ei ole ka midagi veel käes vaid clickbait?
Usun et ikka käes juba osadel revieweritel

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twkZz5WyVJs

[salatoimik]

[sannukas00]

salatoimik,

Spoiler

Link

[Maxstpau]

Video on neil küll hea.

[anubis]

Spoiler

Ainus väljakäidud jõudlusnumber seal videos.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11680/radeon-rx-vega-unveiled-amd-announecs-499-rx-vega-64-399-rx-vega-56-launching-in-august

[Scart]

Otsene Fury respin oleks läinud AMDile maksma kordades vähem ja toonud ilmselt sama, kui mitte parema jõudluse.

[anubis]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11680/radeon-rx-vega-unveiled-amd-announecs-499-rx-vega-64-399-rx-vega-56-launching-in-august/3

[londiste]

[londiste]

reliis on siis 14 august?

[anubis]

Vale toode sellest rääkimiseks, lihtsalt:
https://instinct.radeon.com/en-us/product/mi/radeon-instinct-mi25/

(pigem masinõpe/treenimine siis kui HPC, puudulik fp64 jõudlus ja samal ajal väga hea INT8/fp16/fp32 viitab sellele)

[Tomorrow]

[liiv]

ASUS To Launch Four ROG RX Vega 64 Graphics Cards

[anubis]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2997/radeon-rx-vega-nano

Näed, midagi uut ka vahepeal.

[londiste]

[liiv]

Ethereum miners are renting Boeing 747s to ship graphics cards and AMD shares are soaring

Spoiler

Advanced Micro Devices’ (AMD) share price jumped after it beat revenue estimates thanks to cryptocurrency miners snapping up the firm’s graphics cards. Shares rose 11% after the chip company announced earnings on July 25, but the firm’s stock is up 152% over the last 12 months, making it the fourth best performer on the S&P 500, CNBC reported.
Lisa Su, AMD’s chief executive, said the firm saw “elevated demand” from cryptocurrency miners during the quarter. This need for graphics cards helped AMD give a “solid beat” to analyst estimates, said Kevin Cassidy of Stifel, who covers AMD’s stock at Stifel Financial Corp.”While management wasn’t specific on how much, the [graphics processor unit] revenue upside was driven by cryptocurrency applications.”

Crypto miners—in particular those mining ethereum, the second largest cryptocurrency by market valuation behind bitcoin—have been in the crypto equivalent of a gold rush since early this year. They are racing to take advantage of ethereum’s exploding price by adding more processing power to their mines. Some of them are even resorting to leasing Boeing 747s to fly the increasingly scarce graphics processors from AMD and Nvidia directly to their ethereum mines so they can be plugged in to the network as quickly as possible.

“Time is critical, very critical,” in mining, Marco Streng, chief executive of Genesis Mining, a major ethereum miner, told Quartz. “For example, we are renting entire airplanes, Boeing 747s, to ship on time. Anything else, like shipping by sea, loses so much opportunity.”

Up for grabs is a supply of roughly 36,000 units of new ether, the digital token associated with ethereum, per day. At current prices of around $200 per ether, that translates to $7.2 million worth of ether that miners compete for each day.

“When building our data centers, we have the highest priority on time,” Streng said. “Time counts so much. We are using the fastest delivery possible. You risk the opportunity to mine for the days you are delayed. If you are deploying 10 days later, you are losing 10 days of mining—that is the cost.”

To make money, miners must buy GPUS (graphics processing units) from AMD or Nvidia, then pay the costs of electricity and labor to run them, and maintain giant warehouses to store the machines. In return, miners get a supply of ether each day if they possess sufficient processing power. Because their costs have remained stable while ether’s price has surged from around $10 at the start of the year to a high of $400 in June, miners’ potential profits have increased 40-fold.

“Everyone began to realize this and wanted to get GPUS to get mining. This created an absolute shortage in the market,” Streng said. “The mining gear has a certain price. And suddenly the price of coins goes from $10 to $400—so a factor of 40. The mining return has gone up by 40 but the hardware is still the same cost. This creates an incredible economic incentive for people to start mining.”

The amount of processing power devoted to mining ethereum is measured in “hash rate.” Here’s a chart showing that explosion in mining resources:

Streng says he has maintained “very strong connections” with his GPU suppliers, by virtue of being one of the earliest large ethereum miners. But the competition is heating up. “Now more and more miners are coming, and you have these scenarios where you experience shortages,” he said.
Genesis maintains mines around the world, including in Iceland and China, Streng claims. Streng was visiting his facility near Shanghai when Quartz contacted him. Miners are notoriously secretive about the size and location of their facilities since they must compete against each other to win new supplies of cryptocurrency. It’s an “information advantage” to maintain secrecy, Streng says.

Despite the thirst for graphics cards from crypto miners, AMD management says it’s not going to include that demand in its forecasts. “We didn’t have cryptocurrency in our forecast and we’re not looking to it as a long-term growth driver,” Su said. The chip maker says it’s focusing on its core market of gamers. In the meantime, though, it’s selling virtual shovels to miners as the cryptocurrency gold rush continues.

[Diesel157]

Seega hetkel Ref kaardid 14 august ja customid tulevad kunagi september. Huvitav mis euroopa hinnad tulevad? Kaevurid ostavad kogu partii ära ja gamerid võivad internetist ainult pilte vaadata

[anubis]

Igatahes tundub RX Vega 64 tulema just selline kaart mis mul vaja on.

[londiste]

anubis, kui saladus pole, siis mis kriteeriumid sul kaardi valikul on?

[bitCON]

[londiste]

https://gaming.radeon.com/en-us/rxvega/

1. monitor on pakiga saadaval ainult us/mexico/canada/australia/singapore, mujal ei ole.
2. $100 "soodukat" on 1700x/1800x ja kindlate platede (200+€ plated) ostmisel:

[Diesel157]

Pmst, prices starting @ $399 for RX Vega 56 & $499 for RX Vega 64

Seega pmst, alguses tuleb vist sinna RX400 launchi kanti, et ainult ref kaardid olid ka sellise hinnaga umbes saada, customid maksid rohkem ja alles aja möödudes läks terve seeria odavamaks.

[anubis]

[Braien]

Diesel157, Kas 400-seeria ei tulnud 199 4GB 480 ja 8GB mingi 239 vms.?

[londiste]

[anubis]

Mängujõudluse osas - ma ei suutnud GTX1080ga midagi peale hakata, niiet jätkub kuhjaga.

[Diesel157]

Oleks juba GTX 1070 ostnud, aga hinnad läksid üles ja ei raatsi ülehinnatud asja osta. Mõte liikus juba GTX 1080 peale kuna hinnavahe oli nii väike GTX 1070-ga. Nüüd vaatan hetkel pigem RX Vega 56 poole, aga lõpuks oleneb ikka mis parem bang for buck tuleb.

[anubis]

[trip]

[anubis]

http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/radeon-pro-wx-9100-2017jul30.aspx

[Diesel157]

https://videocardz.com/71488/all-vega-based-graphics-cards-released-today

[flameas]

Huvitav mis tasemele AMD enda vesijahutid on võrreldes näiteks nende kaartidega, kus Corsair on cooleri andnud MSIle vms.

[Scart]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6qod7y/psa_vega_bundle_monitor_freesync_is_broken/

[anubis]

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_Preview/

Kokkuvõte kõigest teadaolevast.

[londiste]

[anubis]

Infinityfabric -> 2x nvme 1tb = Profit

[londiste]

[anubis]

Sellest eelmisel aastal artikkel ka tomshardwares. Siis kasutati Fury't ja bridge kiipi, nüüd vast otse ja memory mapped.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-radeon-pro-ssg,news-53609.html

[londiste]

arvestades, et praegu on nvme ketastel jätkuvalt probleeme pcie 3.0 x4 lõplikult ära täitmisega, siis ei ole see vahe tohutu. teeb kindlasti adresseerimist lihtsamaks, viidet väiksemaks ja on igat pidi parem, aga bandwidth on reaalsuses jätkuvalt umbes sama. mis see parimatel nvme ketastel ongi, 2.5 gb/s read? kahe nvme kettaga parimal juhul 5gb/s ja tegelikult vähem (kirjutamisel veel vähem). vega vram bandwidth on 400gb/s. viite vahe on samuti paar suurusjärku.

[anubis]

[jKazej]

[anubis]

Link


58:00st on Vega Pro SSG osa, koos REDi meestega. Paistab, et ausalt ajas ropendama..

Spoiler

Ajab ropendama teisigi.

Link

[hempadonok]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-RXVEGA64X-W-8GD-B#sp
recommended psu: 1000W
naguu päriselt???

[flameas]

Tundub ka, et olemasolevat venti ei saa välja vahetada Vähemalt mitte ilma asja lahti kiskumata