[jeesus188]

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[v1per]

Naise arvutil Windows 7 juba jupimat aega peal olnud ning masin päris sassis juba omadega. Seega mõtlesin, et uuendan Windowsi, kuna aga pole nende Windowsidega enam pikka aega tegelenud, vahepeal on palju asju muutunud, siis mõtlesin, et uurin, kas on mõistlik installida Windows 10 või on tegu ikka üsna toore süsteemiga veel?

Arvuti peaks selle igaljuhul välja jooksutama, aga pean just silmas tarkvara ennast. Mingi aeg tagasi käis uudistest läbi, et ID-kaarti tugi puudub ning 10 pidi defaultis sisaldama juba mingit spioonitarkvara, millega saab jälgida põhimõtteliselt igat klahvi vajutust. Kas need asjad vastavad tõele?

[firemark]

[murumuna]

[quote="v1per"]Naise arvutil Windows 7 juba jupimat aega peal olnud ning masin päris sassis juba omadega. Seega mõtlesin, et uuendan Windowsi, kuna aga pole nende Windowsidega enam pikka aega tegelenud, vahepeal on palju asju muutunud, siis mõtlesin, et uurin, kas on mõistlik installida Windows 10 või on tegu ikka üsna toore süsteemiga veel?

Arvuti peaks selle igaljuhul välja jooksutama, aga pean just silmas tarkvara ennast. Mingi aeg tagasi käis uudistest läbi, et ID-kaarti tugi puudub ning 10 pidi defaultis sisaldama juba mingit spioonitarkvara, millega saab jälgida põhimõtteliselt igat klahvi vajutust. Kas need asjad vastavad tõele?

Kuidas kellelgi, aga mul on küll mingi aps siin sees, esimesed 10-12 päeva töötas korralikult, siis tuli see jama start menüüga, see ei avanenud. Tegin restardi ja jälle oli kõik ilus, nii jälle töötas umbes sama kaua 13 päeva ja täna jälle sama jama. Lugesin selle start menüü kohta, et seda viga esineb ka teistel, õpetusi on ka seal mida teha, ma saaksin aru, kui see viga oleks alati, siis võtaks midagi ette, aga see on selline juhuslik.

[Hiid]

[firemark]

[jeesus188]

[londiste]

kogu see w10 appide lugu võiks üldiselt hooga süttida.
osa neist ei ole uninstallitavad, osa on appide uninstalli settingute all, osa ei ole, osa asju on vana add/remove all.
totaalne pudru ja kapsad.

[olafsand]

Kuna win 8 teemas kurtsin sama asja, et võrguühendusi tekib lambist juurde. Virtuaalmasinat jne pakuti tookord. Ei olnud siis ka selles asi ja nüüd Win 10 all tekib ka päeva lõpuks neid paras ports juurde. Hetkel paari tunni jooksul selline seis jälle tekkinud. Uninstallin device manageri alt neid regulaarselt ja igapäevaselt. Aga miks need tekivad?

[BTK0]

[olafsand]

BTK0, heh, ole sa meheks!

[tahanteada]

Taas siis neile midagi, kes kõike teada tahavad...

1. Pange riigilipud poolde masti kuna, mitu kuud räägitud ja lubatud, Suure Paranduspaketi väljatulek on edasi lükatud. Seega lubatud oktoobrikuu asemel ehk siis novembrikuus:
Microsoft Delays Windows 10 Threshold 2, Launch Now Planned in November - Report
Redmond needs more time to complete work on the update

The first big update for Windows 10 was originally projected to ship in October, three months after the release of the operating system, but it turns out that the company pushed back the launch for another 30 days because it needs more time to complete work and refine features that are included.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-delays-windows-10-threshold-2-launch-now-planned-in-november-report-490893.shtml

2. Midagi kena ja kaunist neile kes "siniseid aknaid" eelistavad:

Microsoft Offers Help with Windows 10 BSODs
http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-offers-help-on-windows-10-bsods-490894.shtml

3. Ja The Hacker News pajatab samuti siis natuke W10 teemal:
Sellest teemast on juba ka eespool juttu, aga ehk keegi veel ei tea seda millest juttu tehakse...

Sadly, Windows 10 Is Stealing Your Bandwidth 'By Default' — Disable It Immediately
After installing Windows 10, Feeling like your Internet Bandwidth is dropping away? Windows 10 is stealing your network bandwidth.

Along with the privacy features related to Wi-Fi Sense, Windows 10 users should check for another hidden by default feature that uses your network bandwidth to share updates with other Windows 10 users across the Internet.

http://thehackernews.com/2015/08/windows-10-update.html

[JK]

[londiste]

JK, olen kursis ja natukene vähendab ka. aga appid raiped on esiteks per user, mis teeb asja tüütuks.
lisaks on w10 peale migreerunud ka mitmed vähem tehnilised tuttavad ja softi/appide leidmise, nimekirjade ja desinstalleerimise anomaaliad hakkavad ka sellest aspektist tüütuks muutuma.

[seeru]

[masmre]

Proovisin seda ka, aga ei meeldinud, kasutaks ennem juba seda widows8 oma, aga asi juba ostetud ja ma rahul. 3 eurot pole küll nii suur raha, et midagi korralikku, millel on asjalik support ja uuendused ka regulaarsed, ostmata jätta.

[Evil14]

Endale meeldib win10 startmenu tunduvalt rohkem kui win7 oma.

[londiste]

Evil14, miks?
millist funktsionaalsust sa start menüüst kasutad?

[libe]

[mina2t]

kasutasin windows 10 ka mõnda aega, aga kokkuvõttes olid suured jamad amd driveritega mis tegid arvuti kasutamatuks. Raisanud terve õhtu lahenduse leidmiseks kuidas windows 10 lahti saada, tunnen et pean oma läbielamise postitama kuskile, et järgneval õnnetukesel läheks lihtsamalt. Tekst on pikk, tekst on inglise keeles ning mõningate vigadega. Kirjeldab siis protsessi kuidas väga spetsiifiliste probleemide korral endale factory image uuesti arvutile peale panna teiselt partistioonilt.

Spoiler

sometimes things just don't go as planned.
windows 10 has a problem with AMD drivers and boot times are extra 1-2 minutes long with occasional crashes. Sleep is 10 minutes wake time with optional freeze. And I've tried most of the solutions to get it working, disabled even the secondary gpu totally but nothing was permanent or working. So I decided to revert back to windows. The serial key on the laptop is unreadable and only hope was the original factory partition that I hoped is still there.

So where do I start?
Sure, lets use the windows 10 revert back feature. Oh, error. No restore points either. I still have windows.old folder. Oh well, lets just boot into advanced startup and hope we can find dell factory restore if windows didn't clean up its partition. After trying all the f series buttons.. oh, windows does not have this function anymore. Well, lets wait until it boots up and does not crash (AMD drivers yay) and shift+restart. So, now I'm on advanced startup. Going through all of the options, they give me either error or nothing useful. whats next. Oh, I know, there was windows startup repair disk available at Microsoft. I guess it is not available anymore, only way to work is to download the full installation disk (3GB on my shared connection is gonna take at least two three hours, Ill better start meanwhile) or use "create a system recovery disk". Oh it crashes on the secondary laptop and I really dont what to know what causes it. Secondary computer is used heavily. It has every kind of setting or program I might ever need (Starting from android rooting to three different OS systems on boot) so I haven't "cleaned it" for a long time. Friends computer gives error no cd drive installed, because who the hell needs it in modern world, oh the system restore disk is only for disks and not for USB drives. After a while I find what files I have to copy from my working windows 7 system folders on the usb. After more googling, using windows 7 installation disk tutorial is the disk bootable (tutorial for what files to copy: http://www.7tutorials.com/create-usb-memory-stick-system-recovery-tools and tutorial for how to prep disk and copy bootsect: http://bootableusb.net/install-windows-7-usb-drive-easy-way/). Bootsect was received from another third party program (https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/ I would have used it but it needs installation media that is still downloading). Now, I have bootable usb stick with hopefully working restore software .

Its not booting. Now I say to the laptop "go fuck yourself" and Ill change hard drive mode to ata to just stop booting into windows 10 because its annoying as hell. After searching around a bit I do find that booting is disabled from bios and finally, I see familiar windows 7 startup recovery options but obviously no dell factory option. At least its something. None of the restore this pc options work ofcourse, but I do have access to command prompt. Google later and it is possible to recover through command prompt. formatting current windows (finally) disk and trying to apply recover command I find out that I need another piece of software. Imagex. It can be downloaded legally from microsoft....as a part of 1.5gb image that where you have to extract it then. Frustrating 10 minutes later I find a tool that only downloads parts of this file that I need and I have imagex (http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156869-get-waik-tools-wo-downloading-the-huge-isos/). Now, lets continue with apply factory image... but I cant access the stick while I'm booting to startup recovery from the same disk. So I started windows recovery image, removed the usb disk, inserted it to the other side of the computer and accessed it under different letter and the total time to apply the image, as long as I got everything working took me 9 minutes. I've never been happier to see the ugly carbon textured background of a dell computer. And this is how I escaped from hell.

[londiste]

kes siin nende uefi ikalduste üle kilkaski, tahanteada?
mul testmasinal kadus installitud w10-ga ära võime normaalselt mujalt buutida. mängisin biosega, formattisin ketast, proovisin erinevaid buudikaid aga windowsi installikatelt ei buutinudki.
lõpuks pidin nii ketta wipe kui bios reseti tegema enne kui uue w10 peale installida lasi.

[mina2t]

[seeru]

[Marie]