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| pakun, et mängud selle vastu, et ameeriklased krimmis midagi ette võtma ei hakkaks. |
No kisub sinnapoole jah, venelased on mihklid teatrit tegema.
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| mis pagana pärast peaks NSA hoidma "military capabilities, operations, tactics, techniques and procedures" kohta dokumente, ning kolmandaks mis need Krimmi osas asjasse puutuvad? |
Snowdeni jutu järgi jälgiti kõike ning kõiki. Kas arvad, et sõjaväe ohvitsere, jutuajamisi jms ei jälgitud? Loogiline nagu oleks, et jälgivad ka iseenda sõjaväe tegemisi, et avastada võimalikud spioonid, ülejooksikud vms.
E: Krimmi osas puutuvad nii palju, et võibolla tahabki meie idanaaber kasutada ära olukorda, kus USA/NATO sõjavägi on olukorras, kus näiteks nende sidepidamist on võimalik rahulikult pealt kuulata või iga järgmist sammu ette näha.
Ei välista mina ka seda, mõned uudised lääne meedias on meie endi propaganda, et Putinit survestada
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liitunud: 23.11.2004
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07.03.2014 02:43:01
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Ja eks samamoodi jälgitakse ka Eesti ASJU. Eks need Simmid nii vahele jäävadki.
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07.03.2014 08:06:06
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Üks idiootsemaid artikleid Ukraina/Venemaa teemal siiani. 30 aatompommi viskavad Lääne-Euroopale. Otse loomulikult. |
"Lääs" tegi oma ähvardused ära. Venemaal on midagi vaja vastu seada. Keeravad gaasi kinni ? Kevad käes ja erilist efekti poleks + kaotaksid ise veel rohkem raha, mis hetkeolukorda paremaks ei teeks. Jääb alati vana hea tuumarelvaga ähvardamine. Töötab alati.
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07.03.2014 08:15:36
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07.03.2014 11:20:41
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Tundub et soomlased saavad varsti Karjala tagasi.
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07.03.2014 11:49:08
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07.03.2014 11:58:44
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njah, öösel üritatakse laeva kaaperdada...
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liitunud: 30.11.2003
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07.03.2014 12:09:29
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tõsi ta on
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07.03.2014 13:28:05
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Venemaa katkestas diplomaatilised suhted Ukrainaga, teatas Venemaa alaline esindaja ÜRO-s Vitali Tšurkin. Tšurkini sõnul võeti selline otsus vastu, sest Moskva ei tunnista Ukraina praeguste võimude legitiimsust, vahendab UNIAN.
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| Krimmi autonoomse vabariigi ülemnõukogu spiiker Vladimir Konstantinov kuulutas aga Venemaal, et teeb kõik, et ühendada Vene Föderatsiooniga mitte ainult Krimm, vaid kogu Ukraina. |
http://www.unian.net/
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07.03.2014 13:48:52
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Facebookist, Oliver Loode seinalt.
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| With Crimea, Putin is not only challenging the West and international law, but the entire concept of what constitutes a state. Last September, Putin wrote in NY Times: "Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council." It follows that what is going on in Crimea, must be self-defense, and indeed Russia has been talking about the need to defend Russian citizens (and, absurdly, naval bases) in Crimea. So what follows is that Russia as a state defines itself not by its geographic borders but by the presence of its citizens, wherever they might currently be. With this logic, Russia could also attack New York that has a sizable Russian community (many of whom surely Russian citizens), London, Berlin, etc., whenever it feels or decides that there is threat to their security. Indeed, it could attack the entire world because there is hardly a country without any Russian citizens. According to Putin, the whole world is Russia! Not "État, c'est moi", but "état, c'est le monde!". With the shadow of war perpetually hanging over this brave new Russian world. THIS is the new Putin doctrine. Welcome to Russia, my friends, wherever you are! |
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liitunud: 07.11.2006
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07.03.2014 13:52:39
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Mul on selline tunne, et seni USA.-t provotseeritakse kuni too rõõmust käsi kokk lööb ja algabki reaalne sõjategevus....rivaalid on nad juba ju pikalt olnud..... 
Paistab et Venemaa ei taha kuidagi jonni jätta...
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07.03.2014 14:04:00
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Facebookist, Oliver Loode seinalt.
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| With Crimea, Putin is not only challenging the West and international law, but the entire concept of what constitutes a state. Last September, Putin wrote in NY Times: "Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council." It follows that what is going on in Crimea, must be self-defense, and indeed Russia has been talking about the need to defend Russian citizens (and, absurdly, naval bases) in Crimea. So what follows is that Russia as a state defines itself not by its geographic borders but by the presence of its citizens, wherever they might currently be. With this logic, Russia could also attack New York that has a sizable Russian community (many of whom surely Russian citizens), London, Berlin, etc., whenever it feels or decides that there is threat to their security. Indeed, it could attack the entire world because there is hardly a country without any Russian citizens. According to Putin, the whole world is Russia! Not "État, c'est moi", but "état, c'est le monde!". With the shadow of war perpetually hanging over this brave new Russian world. THIS is the new Putin doctrine. Welcome to Russia, my friends, wherever you are! |
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Venemaa lihtsustab ning kiirendab Venemaa kodakondsuse saamist kellel vene keel suus. Sellised uudised olid mõned nädalad tagasi juba.
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07.03.2014 14:14:06
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On küll tasuline artikkel, kuid pealkirja annan ikka
Sweden Mulls "Doctrine Shift" in Defense After Russian Incursion in Ukraine
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The continuing crisis in Ukraine has the reputedly peaceful Swedes rethinking the nation's defense doctrine, and some are using the situation as a way to push for NATO membership in the run-up to parliamentary elections.
Only a few weeks after announcing cuts to the defense budget, Finance Minister Anders Borg told the TT news agency Wednesday "there is a lot indicating" that more money will have to be allocated to military... |
viimati muutis tiirP 07.03.2014 14:15:38, muudetud 1 kord |
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07.03.2014 14:14:26
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Mul on selline tunne, et seni USA.-t provotseeritakse kuni too rõõmust käsi kokk lööb ja algabki reaalne sõjategevus....rivaalid on nad juba ju pikalt olnud.....
Paistab et Venemaa ei taha kuidagi jonni jätta... |
Millega sul seda usat provotseeritakse ? Alaskale löödi punatelk püsti ?
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07.03.2014 14:14:42
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Huvitav, mis ajast venelastel see vallutushimu veres on?
Pärast Tšingis-khaani vägede ülekäimist vene naistest? |
Kui ajalooürikuid uskuda siis jah - venelased muutusid vägivaldseks mongolite ülemvõimu ajal.
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07.03.2014 14:18:07
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Mul on selline tunne, et seni USA.-t provotseeritakse kuni too rõõmust käsi kokk lööb ja algabki reaalne sõjategevus....rivaalid on nad juba ju pikalt olnud.....
Paistab et Venemaa ei taha kuidagi jonni jätta... |
Millega sul seda usat provotseeritakse ? Alaskale löödi punatelk püsti ? |
No, USA tunneb et temalt oodatakse midagi, juba suhtlustasandil on asi üpris tuline , vähemalt tundub.
See minu arvamus, sa ei pea seda tsiteerima.
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07.03.2014 14:22:41
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On küll tasuline artikkel, kuid pealkirja annan ikka
Sweden Mulls "Doctrine Shift" in Defense After Russian Incursion in Ukraine
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The continuing crisis in Ukraine has the reputedly peaceful Swedes rethinking the nation's defense doctrine, and some are using the situation as a way to push for NATO membership in the run-up to parliamentary elections.
Only a few weeks after announcing cuts to the defense budget, Finance Minister Anders Borg told the TT news agency Wednesday "there is a lot indicating" that more money will have to be allocated to military... |
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The continuing crisis in Ukraine has the reputedly peaceful Swedes rethinking the nation's defense doctrine, and some are using the situation as a way to push for NATO membership in the run-up to parliamentary elections.
Only a few weeks after announcing cuts to the defense budget, Finance Minister Anders Borg told the TT news agency Wednesday "there is a lot indicating" that more money will have to be allocated to military defense.
Much of the political debate leading up to the elections in September has been focused on the need to spend more on education and other domestic policies, so any hint that a boost to defense budgets is in the pipeline signals a dramatic U-turn.
In recent years, Swedish policy on defense has been based on the view that there are no conceivable threats to Swedish territory in the near term, and the military has been scaled down and reshaped to focus on participation in international operations. However, after Russia's recent military intervention in Crimea, politicians of different stripes are now saying there should be an expansion in the defense budget and a strengthening of the country's military presence on the strategically important island of Gotland in the Baltic sea.
Jan Björklund, who heads the center-right Liberal Party—a junior partner in Sweden's four-party coalition government—said Wednesday in interviews with reporters that Sweden now needs a "shift in doctrine," so that the main task of its defense force will once again be defending Swedish territory.
The center-right government, headed by Mr. Borg's Moderate party, is trailing in polls, and while the Moderates have traditionally been seen as defense-friendly, this week's debate is unlikely to turn the tide. During their almost eight years in power, the Moderate party has overseen a major shift away from a cold-war defense force designed to protect Sweden against a full-scale invasion to a smaller operation with a larger capacity to contribute to international operations, but which, according to its Supreme Commander Sverker Göranson, could only withstand a limited attack by an external enemy for one week.
While defense policy has moved to the center of the political debate in the past week, it rarely has a significant influence over election results, as parties in Sweden generally try to reach broad-based compromises on security and defense policy. An all-party defense committee that was supposed to complete its report on the needs of the Swedish defense force by March 31 has now had its mandate extended and will submit its proposals by May 15.
In an opinion piece in the Svenska Dagbladet daily Wednesday, Christian Democrat leader Göran Hägglund argued that no spending increase would be big enough to fully safeguard Swedish interests, and that Sweden should therefore consider membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Although Sweden and its neighbor Finland have had a strong relationship with NATO, they have never joined it.
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07.03.2014 14:23:09
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| USA jaoks on see nii kauge ja ebaoluline riik, et USA kindlasti ei hakka reaalselt konflikti sekkuma.
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EU Statement confirms Georgia will sign Association Agreement
http://agenda.ge/news/10137/eng
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| The European Union has expressed its desire to strengthen its relationship with Georgia following an emergency meeting discussing the Ukraine crisis... |
Hillary Clinton: I’m Not Comparing Putin To Hitler, I’m Just Saying He’s Acting Like Hitler
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Clinton reiterated comments she made at a fundraiser in California on Tuesday afternoon, where she compared Russia’s decision to issue passports in the Crimean region to the “population transfers” carried out by Nazi Germany before World War II.
“The claims by President Putin and other Russians that they had to go into Crimea and maybe further into Eastern Ukraine because they had protect the Russia minorities,” Clinton said Wednesday, “that is reminiscent of claims that were made back in the 1930s when Germany under the Nazis kept talking about how they had to protect German minorities in Poland, in Czechoslovakia, and elsewhere throughout Europe. So I just want everybody to have a little historic perspective. I’m not making a comparison certainly, but I am recommending that we perhaps can learn from this tactic that has been used before.” |
As Ukraine crisis deepens, Russia's neighbors boost defenses
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/07/us-ukraine-crisis-defence-idUSBREA260NW20140307
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After a sense of playing second fiddle for years while NATO's eyes were on wars such as Afghanistan, some European countries near Russia's borders are now planning to spend more money on defense as well as hoping for more NATO resources .
Many government officials in the region have felt for years that their warnings of Russian assertiveness have fallen on deaf ears in Washington and with NATO. Suddenly, as Russia seizes control of Ukraine's Crimea region, they are relishing new-found attention - and with it plans to expand defenses from fighter jets to missile systems.
Some plans may be small in European terms - Lithuania's total defense budget, for example, is around 280 million euros ($390 million). But, often accompanied by anti-Russian rhetoric, the moves reflect how the region's security is now back on the agenda...... |
Russia Experts See Thinning Ranks’ Effect on U.S. Policy
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/07/world/europe/american-experts-on-russia.html?ref=world&_r=1
Lingil on ka mõningad aerofotod "Ukraine Crisis in Maps"
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