[HA]

sinu jutu järgi on Samsung ka hea

[AJ]

Western Digital outships Seagate in 2010
TechSpot

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tsitaat:

Western Digital stripped Seagate of its leading spot in the hard drive market during the first quarter of 2010 and the company maintained that lead throughout the year. According to Information Network, total hard drive shipments grew 17.1% to 653.5 million in 2010 and Western Digital represented 31.4% of the market, nearly two percentage points ahead of Seagate's share of 29.6%. Hitachi took third place in overall shipments with 16.4%, ahead of Toshiba/Fujitsu at 12.6% and Samsung at 9.2%. Western Digital reportedly earned its number one title by focusing on the rapidly expanding mobile sector, whereas Seagate catered more to desktop and enterprise customers. The mobile computer market grew by 29% in 2010 -- more than triple the desktop sector's 8% increase. Western Digital accounted for 27.5% of mobile drive shipments, followed by Hitachi at 26% and Seagate at 20.4%. With the emergence of tablet PCs, 2011 should prove to be another fruitful year for the mobile storage market.

Leading Hard Drive Makers to Support Intel Thunderbolt.
X-bit labs

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Two leading makers of hard disk drives - Seagate Technology and Western Digital - said on Thursday that they would support the new interconnect technology unveiled by Intel Corp., the Thunderbolt. Both companies aim to provide solutions supporting the TB I/O tech in calendar 2011. "Seagate will support Thunderbolt with our external GoFlex drives with in calendar year 2011," said Nathan Papadopulos, senior manager of corporate communications at Seagate. Seagate was not among the companies, who openly supported the standard with Intel, Apple, WD and others. This fact makes the announcement even more important. "Western Digital believes Thunderbolt technology will bring both new performance levels and simpler connectivity for consumers to access and enjoy their digital media in new and innovative ways," said Dale Pistilli, vice president of marketing at Western Digital. Two of the world's largest suppliers of hard disk drives, who ship over 50% of the HDDs on the globe, endorse the TB technology from Intel. Although the two companies have not unveiled any actual products or timeframes, it clear that the standard has already been set on the market of external storage. Obviously, the Intel Thunderbolt technology will yet have to become successful among the end-users as currently it is available only on several models of notebooks. Thunderbolt technology supports two low-latency communications protocols - PCI Express for data transfer and DisplayPort for displays. Thunderbolt technology works on data streams in both directions, at the same time, so users get the benefit of full bandwidth in both directions, over a single cable. With the two independent channels, a full 10Gb/s of bandwidth (something not truly needed for HDDs these days) can be provided for the first device in the chain of the devices. All Thunderbolt technology devices share a common Mini DisplayPort connector. Intel's Thunderbolt controllers interconnect a PC and other devices, transmitting and receiving packetized traffic for both PCIe and DisplayPort protocols and thus makers HDDs need to develop or use additional controllers to make their drives compatible with the TB I/O interface.

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Seagate rolls out 3TB Barracuda XT hard drive
TechConnect Magazine

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Seagate Technology, the world's second-largest hard drive maker has now begun shipping its beefiest Barracuda-branded internal HDD yet, the 3TB Barracuda XT which comes in a 3.5-inch form factor, works at 7200 RPM and has a SATA 6.0 Gbps interface. Seagate's new 3TB drive also boasts 64MB of cache, has 4K sectors, and requires the use of the free Seagate DiscWizard software so as to allow access to all its bytes on systems running Windows XP. "Seagate is squarely focused on delivering the storage performance, capacity and innovation to ensure that technology transitions remain seamless for our customers," said Dave Mosley, Seagate executive vice president of sales, marketing and customer service. "The Barracuda XT hard drive epitomizes our commitment to providing end-user customers and PC manufacturers with the world’s most advanced storage solutions." The 3TB Barracuda XT has a recommended price tag of $279.

[SurfData]

[DVDRW]

Njah tavakasutajal pole vist veeel tükk aega asja vaadata 3TB ketta poole kõrge hinna ja ühilduvusprobleemide tõttu

[AJ]

Seagate Momentus 750GB, 3Gb/s Hard Drive
Bjorn3d

[SurfData]

WD ostab hitachi ära

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/07/western-digital-drops-4-3-billion-to-acquire-hitachi-gst-enter/

[tahanteada]

SurfData: Aga miks kurvastad, siis ehk hakkavad WD kettad tulema Hitachi ketaste töökindlusega.

[SurfData]

[Tomorrow]

Konsolideerumine.Ei oska hetkel arvata, kas see hea või halb.Eks aeg näitab

[Maldur]

Küsin mõttes endalt - kas kas see nn konsolideerumise produkt saaks olla sama või parema kvaliteediga kui Hitachi seni on?

[SurfData]

[Tomorrow]

[toivos]

[tahanteada]

Millegipärast usun, et selliste liitumiste taga on see probleem, et juba pikki aastaid pole suudetud lahendada probleemi kuidas ikkagi toota 3-10TB mahuga kõvakettaid.

Seda enam, et juba paar aastat tagasi hakkasid kõik kolm suuremat (Hitachi, WD ja Seagate) mängima, igaüks oma liivakastis, erinevat "suure mahuga TB kettatehnoloogiate väljaarendamist", kuid siiani pole olemas ei lahendust ega standardit selle kohta kuidas ikkagi siis reaalselt toota selliseid ulmemahuga kõvakettaid.
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Väike meenutus sellest, mida Hitachi lubas aastal 2010:
Hitachi working on technology to build 10 TB HDD'S
Posted by Siddanth on February 6th, 2010
http://www.tech-mania.com/2010/hitachi-working-on-technology-build-10-tb-hdds/

[toivos]

Kõigil 3TB-l on tegelikult Sata poole pealt sama standard. Vahet pole.

[kaabakas]

Marxu Karla teadis juba aastaid tagasi, et korporatsioonidel on kalduvus ühineda. Mäletame ju veel kuidas paar aastat tagasi Seagate ennast suurimaks tootjaks ostis. Praeguseks on aga WD ennast ette võidelnud ja pole imestada et nad profiti positsiooni kindlustamise alla panna tahavad. Isiklikult tundub mulle siiski, et vähem kui kolme tõsiseltvõetava konkurendiga süsteem unustab kliendi üsna kiiresti. Võrdlusmaterjaliks kasvõi olukord riigis.

[RCC]

WD - ehk hetkel suurim praagitootja, kui hitachi alla neelatakse on alust arvata, et praaki hakkab tulema vägevalt.

[tahanteada]

toivos: ma pidasin silmas platteritele infopõletustehnoloogiate leiutamist, mis võimaldaks 5-10TB kettale ära mahutada.

Näiteks Hitachi plaanis hoopis laser-magnetsalvestuse kasutusele võtta, et taolised suured 5-10TB ära mahutada. Samas - mitte kumbki konkurent, ei WD ega Seagate ei rääkinud midagi sellistest mahtudest.
Link kah selle kohta, kus see salvestustehnoloogia ära on selgitatud:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hitach-laser-hard-drives-hdd,9582.html
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Nii, et igal juhul saab WD selle Hitachi-tehnoloogia nüüd ka enda kätte.

[toivos]

[Tomorrow]

[purexpure]

[RCC]

link ukse küljes tahatuppa, kus need kettad seal läbi aegade hunnikus virnas on

[Tomorrow]

[RCC]

ei minul ei ole, teised toovad ja teistel ongi, mina wd ei kasuta reeglina. wd ei osanud kettaid teha juba anno 1989

[Tomorrow]

[RCC]

sa oleks nagu see delfi valvekommar, et kiidad kah ainult ühte parteid . conner oskas teha vägagi häid ja kõik väiksemad firmad kes on "konsolideerimise" käigus ära "kaotatud" quantumi seeriad, samsung nüüd, hitachi veidi vähem, fujitsu jne -et tolmu koguvad, ei kogu, käibes on koguaeg.

[Tomorrow]

[AJ]

Samsung HDDs reach 1TB per platter areal density
TechSpot

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Samsung has announced a new breakthrough in HDD areal density, pushing up to one terabyte of data per platter in a new line of drives being shown off at this year's CeBIT convention in Hanover, Germany. The company demonstrated a 3.5-inch two-terabyte, two-platter model during the event that will launch as part of its Spinpoint EcoGreen series of drives featuring 5400RPM spindle speeds, 32MB of cache and SATA 6Gbps connectivity. The achievement will eventually lead to lower cost, high-speed 3TB and 4TB models. But the bump in platter densities isn't just for desktop class drives, as Samsung is also showing 1TB 2.5-inch HDDs for laptops, which integrate two 500GB platters along a 8MB cache and 3Gbps SATA interface. The upshot is that this new drive will be standard-sized for compatibility with most laptops rather than 12.5mm tall as last year's model. The 1TB notebook drive could debut as early as April, according to reports, while an estimated launch date or price for the newest member of Samsung's Spinpoint EcoGreen (5400 RPM) desktop series remains unknown.

[Tomorrow]

4TB selle aasta lõpus?

[AJ]

[SurfData]

[DVDRW]

10tb ketas ehk aastal 2020?

[SurfData]

[Tomorrow]

[Chaza!]

Uurisin siin läpaka 1tb kettaid ning kas mõni on õhuke ka või kõik on paksukesed?

[Tomorrow]

[AJ]

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB review
TechRadar

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Hitachi's Deskstar 7K3000 3TB hard drive
The Tech Report

[DVDRW]

[Chaza!]

Vaatan jälle siin neid 1tb läpaka kettaid ja tekkis küsimus, et kas praegu osta või oodata, et äkki lööb hinda alla kui midagi uut peale tuleb?

http://www.galador.ee/catalog/view/115-suelearvutile-2-5/filter/4353
Siin on WD ja Samsung, tasub vist ikka wd-d eelistada või mis te arvate?

[toivos]

[DVDRW]

1TB 2,5" on jah paks, st enamustesse läpakatesse ei mahu - mõeldud rohkem välisena kasutamiseks.

[Chaza!]

[AJ]

Seagate 3TB Barracuda XT Review (ST33000651AS)
StorageReview

[RiTa]

Kuna ei ole eriti aega süvitsi minna ja netiavarused läbi kammida siis uurin targemate käest. Pean uue välise ketta soetama. Vana( Verbatim 320gb) hakkab täis saama ja peab midagi uut leidma. Vajan just sellist millel ei ole välist toidet. Verbatim on ülihästi vastu pidanud ja vaikne,mis on väga oluline. Oman veel kahte WD 500gb ja 1,5tb ketast mis on toite pealt. Neid kobakaid aga läpakaga kaasas ei tassi:)

Siin foorumis ringi uurides jääb mulje, et WD pole just soositud. Minu kaks WD on õnneks olnud väga tublid kuigi see 500gb on hirmus lärmaja:)

Annan mõned lingid mille suunas vaatan. Igasugune abi oodatud ja soovitage, ehk on veel midagi paremat(vahemikus 750-1000gb).

1. WD - http://disney.com/s1byq
2. Seagate - http://disney.com/1try7

[AJ]

Gigabyte "Unlocks" 3TB+ Hard Drives on 32-Bit Systems
X-bit labs

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Gigabyte Technology, one of the world's largest makers of mainboards and graphics cards, has announced a new utility, which will help to utilize large hard disk drives on 32-bit systems. At present the utility allows to utilize drives with 3TB and higher capacity on the most advanced mainboards, but eventually it will support all shipping platforms from Gigabyte. The hard disk drives (HDDs) with higher than 2.19TB capacity have to use 64-bit operating system, new logical block addressing (LBA) standard along with new UEFI (universal extensible firmware interface) replacement for BIOS (basic input-output system) and sometimes 4KB sectors (up from 512 bytes on the vast majority of current drives),. While it is not hard to install a 64-bit operating system onto any more or less new personal computer, changing a mainboard with BIOS onto a mainboard with UEFI (which are not available widely) is a problem for a majority of PC owners and transiting from BIOS to UEFI is a headache for motherboard manufacturers. One of the solutions to make 3TB and similar drives work under 32-bit operating system, or on a PC that does not support UEFI is to utilize a special controller for large-capacity hard disks. Another one is to use special software that lets users to split the large drives into partitions and create virtual drives. The Gigabyte 3TB+ Unlock Utility allows Gigabyte motherboards without Hybrid EFI to recognize and use unallocated space on new 3TB and larger hard disc drives (HDDs). The utility lets the user to create a virtual drive with space that exceeds 2.19TB, the maximum amount of storage recognized by 32-bit versions of operating systems, such as Windows XP. The virtual drives are limited to 2048GB, and the user can create up to 128 partitions, as long as there is additional unallocated space on the HDD. 3TB+ Unlock supports both GPT (GUID Partition Table) and MBR (Master Boot Record) partition styles, however with MBR the number of partitions are limited to 8. The utility is similar to the one that Seagate ships along with its 3TB desktop HDD. The 3TB+ Unlock currently supports new high-end motherboard models based on the Intel X58, Intel 6-series and AMD 8-series chipsets, and is in the process of being ported to older chipset models so that it will support all motherboards that are currently shipping. Even though end-users of mainboards featuring latest core-logic sets will hardly use 32-bit operating systems, far not all modern mainboards support EFI in thus may not support 3TB hard drives, which is why the utility from Gigabyte seems to be a useful one. The utility is freely available from the utilities page of the official Gigabyte website.

[karuke]

Tahtsin küsida, et kas see on normaalne, et RAID 1 pandud arvuti boottime peabki pikemaks minema, et miski RAID menüü käib peale BIOS'i veel eest läbi, et ennem käivitas masin sirka 30 seki nüüd 50. On see normaalne. Ahja system on SSD peal hetkel raid on siis andmete jaoks.

[smurfer]

[karuke]

Kurb , SSD kettast pole siis käivitamisel mitte essugi kasu

[olc]

Võtsid SSD selleks et masin kiiremini käima käiks? Ära pane masinat üldse kinni siis

[karuke]

Noh mis ma masinast ikka koguaeg jooksutan, kuigi tegemist on HTPC'ga ja voolu just palju ei tarbi. Noh muidugi muud programmid jooksevad siga kiirelt ja kui ta lõpuks wini laadima hakkab siis on kiire aga ikkagist