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liitunud: 04.02.2002
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02.06.2010 10:15:06
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Huvitav mis siis saama hakkab, kui orkaanihooaeg merelt vett maismaale keerutama hakkab. |
Eks ikka nalja hakkab saama. Kindlustuskompaniid ei kata sellel juhul potentsiaalseid kahjusid.
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liitunud: 04.04.2003
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02.06.2010 11:07:33
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Scart: Ja lisaks veel siis mustad huumorid, nagu see, et mingi mustmiljon ameeriklast saavad esmakordselt teada, et midagi on neil mäda, kui nad ei pääse ookeani äärde meeldivalt puhkust veetma või kui sügiseks on Ameerikas uus president - jms. huvitavad nähtused...
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liitunud: 04.02.2002
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02.06.2010 12:14:42
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link :: kae siit
June 2 (Bloomberg) -- BP Plc’s failure since April to plug a Gulf of Mexico oil leak have prompted forecasts the crude may continue gushing into December in what President Barack Obama has called the greatest environmental disaster in U.S. history.
BP’s attempts so far to cap the well and plug the leak on the seabed a mile below the surface haven’t worked, while the start of the Atlantic hurricane season this week indicates storms in the Gulf may disrupt other efforts.
“The worst-case scenario is Christmas time,” Dan Pickering, the head of research at energy investor Tudor Pickering Holt & Co. in Houston, said. “This process is teaching us to be skeptical of deadlines.”
Ending the year with a still-gushing well would mean about 4 million barrels of oil spilled into the Gulf, based on the government’s current estimate of 12,000 to 19,000 barrels leaking a day. That would wipe out marine life deep at sea near the leak and elsewhere in the Gulf, and along hundreds of miles of coastline, said Harry Roberts, a professor of Coastal Studies at Louisiana State University.
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liitunud: 16.02.2002
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02.06.2010 12:20:13
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Natuke nalja:
Spoiler 
ning mis võib juhtuda orkaanidega mehhiko lahes:
What would a hurricane do to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill?
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Could a lightning strike from a hurricane ignite oil from the spill, and the hurricane's winds hurl the flaming oil inland, creating a fiery maelstrom of water, wind, and flame? This would make a great scene in a typical bad Hollywood disaster movie, but it's not going to happen with the universe's current laws of physics. Lightning could set an oil slick on fire, in regions where the oil is most dense and very fresh. About 50-70% of the evaporation of oil's most flammable volatile compounds occurs in the first 12 hours after release, so fresh oil is the most likely to ignite. However, the winds of a hurricane are so fierce that any surface oil slick of flaming oil would quickly be disrupted and doused by wave action and sea spray. Heavy rain would further dampen any lightning-caused oil slick fires |
Vähemasti jääb siis too tule-hiidlaine olemata
_________________ Teach a man to reason and he'll think for a lifetime
Common sense - so rare that it's a damn superpower
Vaadates paljude inimeste sõnavõtte siin ja mujal jääb üle ainult klassikuid tsiteerida - "I weep for humanity" |
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liitunud: 04.02.2002
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02.06.2010 12:25:04
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Põlema ta muidugi ei lähe, see on Michael Bay uue filmi sisuks ehk
Reostab aga ilmselt meeletult, kui vee pealt nafta üles korjatakse ning maismaale loobitakse.
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liitunud: 16.02.2002
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02.06.2010 12:28:38
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Reostab aga ilmselt meeletult, kui vee pealt nafta üles korjatakse ning maismaale loobitakse. |
Artiklis on räägitud, et suure tõenäosusega vihmana see alla ei saja või sajab üsna tühisel hulgal. Küll aga võivad suured veemasside liikumised kogu selle soga märksa suurema ala peale laiali ajada. Igatahes head see ei tee.
_________________ Teach a man to reason and he'll think for a lifetime
Common sense - so rare that it's a damn superpower
Vaadates paljude inimeste sõnavõtte siin ja mujal jääb üle ainult klassikuid tsiteerida - "I weep for humanity" |
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liitunud: 27.01.2005
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02.06.2010 12:45:31
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Seda, et see sitt väga ei põle, suutsid nad ise ju juba tõestada.
Kui üritasid kogu seda sodi mere peal ära põletada, ei tulnud sellest nagu väga midagi suuremat välja.
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liitunud: 04.04.2003
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02.06.2010 13:39:55
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Scart: OT: Eks siis seekord saadakse materjal filmi tarbeks, kus korraga mängivad mõlemad maailma-päästjad Seagal ja Wiilis. Ühel suured kogemused lekkiva, kontrolli alt väljas naftajuhtme lõhkamisega, teisel jälle aukude puurimisega.
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liitunud: 27.01.2005
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02.06.2010 17:04:41
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fallout3 kirjutas: |
Huvitav mis siis saama hakkab, kui orkaanihooaeg merelt vett maismaale keerutama hakkab. |
Eks ikka nalja hakkab saama. Kindlustuskompaniid ei kata sellel juhul potentsiaalseid kahjusid. |
Spoiler 
Pole hullu, ameeriklased on leidlikud...
_________________ ...life is random...so am I...
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liitunud: 01.10.2008
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liitunud: 27.01.2005
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03.06.2010 10:48:27
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Niih saagimine siis kah feilis, saag kiilus eile kinni ja purunes, asendust otse loomulikult BP`l pole
_________________ ...life is random...so am I...
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liitunud: 04.04.2003
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03.06.2010 11:25:31
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Etz: Aga nad oskasid juba laupäeval ühe saeketta pilbasteks saagida.
Nii, et ega BP-l pole küll ühtki tuttavat, kes kalli raha eest seletaks, et millise saekettaga millist materjali saetakse.
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Aga eks raha kulub ka mujale, kui korraliku sae ostmiseks - kusagil nägin lugu sellest, et aktsionärid saavad suure "dividendide-rahapaki".
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liitunud: 27.01.2005
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03.06.2010 11:34:27
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Etz: Aga nad oskasid juba laupäeval ühe saeketta pilbasteks saagida.
Nii, et ega BP-l pole küll ühtki tuttavat, kes kalli raha eest seletaks, et millise saekettaga millist materjali saetakse.
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Aga eks raha kulub ka mujale, kui korraliku sae ostmiseks - kusagil nägin lugu sellest, et aktsionärid saavad suure "dividendide-rahapaki".  |
Aga mine siis neile "kõiketeadvaks" konsultandiks
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liitunud: 18.11.2004
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03.06.2010 11:48:24
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tahanteada, äkki seletad, millise ketassaega ja milliste ketastega tegu on?
Tahaks ka täpsemat infot saada
Vaadates eelpool Etz kommentaaris toodud pilte ei näe ma ühtegi ketassae moodi instrumenti
Kui sa isegi suudaksid natukenegi loogiliselt mõelda, siis kuidas sa saed vee all ketassaega
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liitunud: 04.04.2003
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03.06.2010 12:18:55
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ossa: Otsi siis veealused videod üles - siis näed, et:
- laupäeval katsetati üsna väikse saekettaga
- ja esmaspäev - kell 19.10 , kui saeti üht peent toru läbi hoopis suurema saekettaga, kui see laupäevane ketas oli.
- või siis esmaspäeval, kell 19.22 kui ikka veel sellesama kettaga usinasti edasi saeti.
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Edit: Pilt kah sellest, kuidas esmaspäeval ketassaega toru saetakse.
http://www.upload.ee/files/613977/saag2.png.html
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liitunud: 27.01.2005
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03.06.2010 12:55:49
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tahanteada, äkki seletad, millise ketassaega ja milliste ketastega tegu on?
Tahaks ka täpsemat infot saada
Vaadates eelpool Etz kommentaaris toodud pilte ei näe ma ühtegi ketassae moodi instrumenti
Kui sa isegi suudaksid natukenegi loogiliselt mõelda, siis kuidas sa saed vee all ketassaega  |
Saeti nii ketassaagide kui "trosssaega" viimane siis nüüd otsad andiski
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9yP7WE10b-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=CuayfsiwifE
BTW leidsin ühe huvitava koha, kus on kõik feedid kirjas...mitte ainult ametlik...head vaatamist
Spoiler 
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:44287.asx?bkup=44668 Ocean Intervention III – ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:44838.asx?bkup=45135 Ocean Intervention III - ROV2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:46566.asx?bkup=54013 Viking Poseidon ROV 1 - Viking Poseidon – ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:55030.asx?bkup=56646 Viking Poseidon – ROV 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:31499.asx?bkup=31500 Boa Deep C – ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:22458.asx?bkup=23729 Boa Deep C – ROV 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:45685.asx?bkup=49182 Skandi – ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:45685.asx?bkup=49182 Skandi – ROV 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:47175.asx?bkup=21144 Enterprise - ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:21145.asx?bkup=21327 Enterprise - ROV 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:37235.asx?bkup=37270 Q4000 - ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:35523.asx?bkup=35624 Q4000 - ROV 2
Additional BP live oil spill cam feeds
# bp "official" ones, mixed content
mms://a261.l9789246260.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/261/97892/v0001/reflector:46260
mms://a246.l9789246245.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/246/97892/v0001/reflector:46245
# BP mystery dish feed
mms://a662.l9789246661.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/662/97892/v0001/reflector:46661
mms://a261.l9789246661.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/261/97892/v0001/reflector:46663
# Oceaneering / Oceaneering International III (Maxx 3), probably others
mms://a662.l9789245135.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/662/97892/v0001/reflector:45135
mms://a261.l9789244838.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/261/97892/v0001/reflector:44838
# Subsea 7 / MSV Skandi Neptune Hercules-14 Program 1
mms://a246.l9789249182.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/246/97892/v0001/reflector:49182
mms://a214.l9789245685.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/214/97892/v0001/reflector:45685
# Subsea 7 / MSV Skandi Neptune Hercules-6 Program 1
mms://a261.l9789247175.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/261/97892/v0001/reflector:47175
# ? Veolia / XLX 36
mms://a246.l9789246566.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/246/97892/v0001/reflector:46566
mms://a261.l9789254013.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/261/97892/v0001/reflector:54013
# unknown, oceaneering or mixed? # Mill42?
mms://a261.l9789254013.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/261/97892/v0001/reflector:55030
mms://a261.l9789254013.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/261/97892/v0001/reflector:56646
mms://a212.l9789245683.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/212/97892/v0001/reflector:45683
mms://a241.l9789221144.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/241/97892/v0001/reflector:21144
mms://a242.l9789221145.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/242/97892/v0001/reflector:21145
mms://a211.l9789222458.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/211/97892/v0001/reflector:22458
mms://a234.l9789223729.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/234/97892/v0001/reflector:23729
mms://a615.l9789245684.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/615/97892/v0001/reflector:45684
mms://a624.l9789246260.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/624/97892/v0001/reflector:46260
mms://a228.l9789231499.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/228/97892/v0001/reflector:31499
mms://a229.l9789231500.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/229/97892/v0001/reflector:31500
mms://a239.l9789237270.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/239/97892/v0001/reflector:37270
mms://a204.l9789237235.c97892.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/204/97892/v0001/reflector:37235
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Ning veel üks "põnev leht" (aeglase arvuti ja ühendusega ei soovita avada...kõik feedid kõrvuti hakkavad ühes aknas jooksma...)
http://bp.isevil.org/
Samad feedid siis üksikult:
Spoiler 
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:44287.asx?bkup=44668 Ocean Intervention III – ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:44838.asx?bkup=45135 Ocean Intervention III - ROV2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:46566.asx?bkup=54013 Viking Poseidon ROV 1 - Viking Poseidon – ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:55030.asx?bkup=56646 Viking Poseidon – ROV 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:31499.asx?bkup=31500 Boa Deep C – ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:22458.asx?bkup=23729 Boa Deep C – ROV 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:45685.asx?bkup=49182 Skandi – ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:45685.asx?bkup=49182 Skandi – ROV 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:47175.asx?bkup=21144 Enterprise - ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:21145.asx?bkup=21327 Enterprise - ROV 2
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:37235.asx?bkup=37270 Q4000 - ROV 1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:35523.asx?bkup=35624 Q4000 - ROV 2 |
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Targad kõik.
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Targad kõik. |
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liitunud: 26.12.2009
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poiss4 kirjutas: |
Targad kõik. |
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Mina olengi kõige rumalam siin ju.
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liitunud: 27.01.2005
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03.06.2010 19:19:35
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Põhimõtteliselt tegid siis viimase katsega asja veel hullemaks...
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2010/06/01/todd.oil.spill.uderwater.cap.cnn
Spoiler 
Venice, Louisiana (CNN) — BP has abandoned its original plan to use a diamond wire cutter that its engineers had hoped would cleanly cut the riser pipe spewing oil into the Gulf of Mexico. It will instead use a more effective, if less precise, cutter, the federal government’s point man on the disaster said Wednesday.
The diamond wire cutter plan was dumped after the device got stuck midway through the pipe. It was freed at 2:10 p.m. ET and taken to the surface, Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen told CNN.
The next move will be to use the sheer-cutting device that made Tuesday’s successful cut on the riser. Because the rougher surface left by that cut will not accommodate the tight seal needed for installation of the lower-marine riser package, engineers will use the “top hat” instead, he said.
That 5-foot-tall, 4-foot-diameter structure had been considered before, but engineers opted instead for an insertion tube that wound up capturing only about 20 percent of the oil from the site of the leak to the surface.
The mile-deep cutting effort, conducted by robot submarines, came as shifting weather patterns threatened to push more oil toward the shores of Mississippi, Alabama and Florida.
Alabama and Mississippi reported weathered oil and tar balls on barrier islands Tuesday, and Florida Gov. Charlie Crist warned Wednesday that the white sands of the Panhandle could start seeing crude wash ashore “in a day or two.”
In Louisiana, where oily sludge has been fouling coastal marshes for two weeks, state officials said the White House has given its blessing to a plan to dredge up walls of sand offshore, and BP agreed to fund the $360 million construction cost.
U.S. officials raised concerns about the long-term environmental effects of what would effectively amount to building dozens of miles of new barrier islands off the state’s coast.
But Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and other officials had pushed for approval of the plan as a last-ditch effort to prevent further damage.
Read more about Jindal’s announcement
“It’s very difficult if not impossible to clean it up out of the marsh,” said Billy Nungesser, president of Louisiana’s Plaquemines Parish, which includes the mouth of the Mississippi River.
“That’s why we need this first line of defense, and we’re going to work hard, very quickly, to get that berm out there to give us the maximum protection and give us a fighting chance.”
Nungesser becomes face of grassroots effort
On Day 44 of the disaster, National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration extended fishing restrictions deeper into the Gulf and eastward along the Florida Panhandle.
The latest order means 37 percent of the Gulf is now closed to fishing due to the spill, and it moves the boundaries of the restricted zone eastward to just south of Navarre, Florida, and southward to the edge of the Dry Tortugas, off Key West.
The leading edge of the spill was within 10 miles of Pensacola, Florida, on Wednesday, with “thousands of tar balls” spotted in the water, Crist told reporters.
The state was scrambling to deploy more boom in its westernmost counties and to get skimmer boats out onto the water to scoop up as much of the oil as possible, he said.
With the help of $25 million from BP, Florida has been running ads trying to emphasize that its beaches and resorts have stayed open and oil-free. Crist said some of those ads will be edited, if necessary.
Watch Florida brace for the oil Video
“Obviously, you have to have truth in advertising,” he said. “So we want to make sure that if it does come on our shores, that we redirect the message so that it is appropriate, that it is accurate and discusses where it is — and maybe more importantly, where it is not.”
Concern has spread southward. The head of the Department of the Environment and Natural Resources in Mexico said Wednesday that five states in Mexico are monitoring the oil spill in the event it reaches land in the country, according to the state-run news agency Notimex.
Track the Gulf oil disaster
BP’s latest attempt to curtail the flow comes after several failures, including a closely watched bid to use heavy drilling fluid and cement to shut down the well.
The well erupted after an explosion and fire on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig on April 20 that killed 11 people. The rig sank two days later, leaving up to 19,000 barrels (798,000 gallons) of oil pouring into the Gulf, according to federal estimates.
The gusher may not be shut until August, when BP expects to complete relief wells that will take the pressure off the one now spewing into the Gulf.
BP , rig owner Transocean Ltd. and oilfield services company Halliburton have blamed each other for the disaster. But BP, as the well’s owner, is responsible for the costs of the cleanup under federal law. Suttles said the company has spent more than $1 billion to clean up the spill.
And BP has taken a beating in the halls of government, drawing the ire of members of Congress, officials in the Gulf states and the Obama administration, which announced Tuesday that a criminal investigation of the spill was under way.
Senators push BP to suspend dividend
Federal officials, the administration said, will no longer hold joint news briefings with the company. Before Allen’s news conference Wednesday at a BP operations center, a Coast Guard member struggled to tear a BP logo from the podium.
Naftafirma BP juht: me ei olnud süvavee lekkeks valmis
Et nagu, mis kuradi kohaga seal naftapuurimis firmades üldse mõeldakse?
Ahjaa... milleks mõelda kui papp jookseb
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Etz: Lihtsalt Väga Suured Rahanumbrid ja kergelt saadav hiilgekasum viib mõtlemise peast minema.
Ja kui meenutada kunagist kõlakat, et samasuguseid, kehva ehitusega, odavakesi puurtorne peaks selles lahes veel palju olema ning milledega samasugused avariid võivad tekkida...
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Aga eks ehk kunagi Scart tuleb ja räägib mis toimub vee all ja BP Peakontoris.
Juhul, kui BP pole Scarti raskete rahadega ära ostnud, et ta kõike välja ei lobiseks.
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Aga eks ehk kunagi Scart tuleb ja räägib mis toimub vee all ja BP Peakontoris.
Juhul, kui BP pole Scarti raskete rahadega ära ostnud, et ta kõike välja ei lobiseks.  |
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Etz: ma pidasin lihtsalt seda silmas, et Scart on osanud väga tihti välja otsida infot, mida kusagil keegi ei julge või ei taha avaldada.
Ning ehk on tal nüüd ka midagi sellist pajatada, mida kusagilt mujalt kas üldse teada ei saa või siis avalikustatakse see alles mingi aeg hiljem.
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omgwtf
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liitunud: 23.10.2006
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03.06.2010 19:43:51
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Eks peale hetke jama hakatakse tõsiselt mõtlema ja torne muutma.
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Ho Ho
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Etz: ma pidasin lihtsalt seda silmas, et Scart on osanud väga tihti välja otsida infot, mida kusagil keegi ei julge või ei taha avaldada. |
Scart on lihtsalt vahendaja, õiged info leidjad-lekitajad on hoopis teised inimesed
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