[Tanel]

USA jõustruktuurid avaldasid rahulolematust Apple’i uute telefonide kõrge turvataseme pärast. Nimelt ei saa ilma omaniku nõusolekuta telefoni sisuga tutvuda.

Telefon krüpteerib oma sisu – e-posti sõnumid, fotod, kontaktid jms keerulise matemaatilise algoritmi abil, kirjutab New York Post. Avamiskood on telefonipõhine ning Apple väidab, et firma enda toodetud telefonide koode ei tea aga saagi teada.

Loe edasi: http://majandus24.postimees.ee/2936293/fbi-ja-nsa-mures-uus-iphone-liiga-nuhkimiskindel

[tahanteada]

Postimehe lugu on üsna poolik kuna mures ollakse ikka oluliselt rohkem:

FBI Not Happy With Apple & Google's Smartphone Full Encryption Policy

https://foorum.hinnavaatlus.ee/viewtopic.php?t=622440

[Sahib]

Kui need kolmetähelised elukad oma suu lahti teevad, siis kahtle kõiges!
Tegemist on ratsukäiguga - nende viis olla asjaga rahul ja avalikkust rahustada

[RIH0]

Kui FBI-le ei oleks tagaust tehtud, siis ei oleks see telefon kindlasti müügile pääsenud. Tegu on lambukeste lollitamise uudisega.

[olka]

Aga kas on siis olemas üldse mingisugusti turvalist mobiili ala cryptophone

[Aix]

[olka]

noo siis on viimane aeg selline asi turule tuua

[mikk150]

[jägaja]

[bugbrake]

No nii, nüüd saan kindlasti sellise pasarahe kaela koos rahvavaenlase tiitliga aga ...
Olen seda meelt, et ametivõimudel peaks siiski mingi võimalus telefonidele juurdepääs olema. Ja juurdepääs mitte niisama paranoiliseks nuhkimiseks vaid siiski asja pärast.
Kindlasti on juhtumeid kus nt politsei on lahendanud kuriteo just tänu sellele et on saanud vajaliku info kurjategija telefonist või selle jälgimisega ning saab seda infot kohtus ka kasutada. Nüüd kindlasti heidab keegi ette, et kui keegi tahab valguskartvaid tegusid teha siis ta muretseb vastava turvalise telefoni. Neid tarku kurjategijaid on vähe kes nii oma valguskartvaid tegusid ajaks, enamus on siiski piisavalt rumalad.
Ühtäkki on kõik mures oma privaatsuse pärasta aga FB jagatakse endast kõike - väga vastuolulised nõudmised ja mured.

[jyrisa]

[Goon]

Tegemist lihtsalt Apple maine parandamisega. Arvate,et NSA ja CIA ütleks seda kõva häälega välja kui see isegi nii oleks? See jutt on tõesti stiilis et kirjutada lehes, et jätsin kodu maja uksed lahti ja siianii on uks avatud.

[lightbluefox]

Pigem jah, loodavad, et kõik pätid ostavad selled uudise valguses nüüd omale uued iPhoned ja siis on nende tegevust veelgi lihtsam edaspidi jälgida

[Spooky]

Kui väga tahta, võib olemasoleva Androiditelefoni turvaliseks progeda (mida Blackphone ongi), Android on ju avatud lähtekoodiga Linux.
Kuid sellegi poolest saavad kaitse- ja luureorganid kogu andmesidele ligi läbi võrguoperaatori.

[tahanteada]

Paistab, et neid kritiseerijaid tuleb tasapisi juurde...

Europol AD Joins FBI in Criticising Google and Apple for Mobile Encryption
It’s not just the US politicians that are annoyed with Google and Apple’s desire to keep people’s privacy safe, but also those in the European Union.

Troels Oerting, the chief of the European Cybercrime Centre and the Europol Assistant Director, says that people don’t know the difference between privacy and anonymity. In an effort to get the former, the latter makes life easier for criminals, he stated.

“The problem right now is, that there seems to be a confusion between anonymity and privacy. We all want and need privacy, but this doesn’t mean anonymity,” he said, The Register reports.

While he didn’t specifically refer Google and Apple’s implementation of encryption on their mobile operating systems as a reaction to the revelations regarding the mass surveillance apparatus going on in the world with the help of the NSA and its partners, he did refer to encryption.

“Irreversible encryption will make it very difficult – maybe even impossible – for law enforcement to obtain evidence and I am not sure this reality is clear to all,” he said, adding that in any democratic society there’s a need to provide law enforcement with a right to obtain information authorized by a judge, based on clear suspicion in cases involving serious crime or terrorism.

Oerting believes that full encryption of communication and online storage will make life easier for criminals and terrorists and very difficult for the rest of the world. He called for the discovery of the right balance between security and freedom, which must be set by citizens in a political and ethical discussion on the trade-offs.
The FBI set the trend

FBI Director James Comey started the wave of protests regarding the plans to encrypt all phone communications on both Android and iOS devices, which would protect the data from law enforcement even when a court order is served because not even the companies can read the information and therefore have nothing to hand over.

Eric Holder, outgoing US Attorney General, talked about the same topic and played the “think of the children” card, saying that the encryption settings on one’s phone could be used by child predators to evade authorities.

It remains to be seen whether Google and Apple will budge on the topic, especially since encryption has become more and more popular over the past year since the NSA revelations since hit the media, thanks to Edward Snowden.

The whistleblower himself has been saying that encryption is the only way to dodge the ever watching eye of the NSA and its partners that like to collect all data available.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Europol-AD-Joins-FBI-in-Criticising-Google-and-Apple-for-Mobile-Encryption-460839.shtml

[LKits]

Eks see ole jah kahe otsaga mõõk. Eraisikuna mulle väga meeldib, kui keegi minu andmetele ligi ei pääse, aga samas, kui satuksin mõne kuriteo ohvriks, siis just vastupidiselt sooviksin, et kurjategija tabataks võimalikult kiirelt ja täpselt - krüpteerimine takistab seda.

Samas, ma pole naiivne ning tean, et taolised organisatsioonid, kes tegelevad kuritegevusega igapäevaselt, kasutavad vastavaid lahendusi juba ammu. Pole just keeruline leida Android ROM telefoni, kus on OS krüpteeritud ning andmed on-the-fly krüpteeringuga.

[tahanteada]

Stoorid jätkuvad: Ja eks iga lugeja ise otsustab, kas ja kumb on siis rohkem turvaline...

Eric Schmidt: Data Is Much Safer with Google, than with Apple
Google’s chairman Eric Schmidt won’t let jabs made toward the company fly, especially when they come from Tim Cook, the Apple CEO.

“We have always been the leader in security and encryption. Our systems are far more secure and encrypted than anyone else, including Apple. They’re catching up, which is great,” Schmidt added his own jab during an interview with CNN Money.

The statement comes after Apple CEO Tim Cook said that when online services like Google are offered for free, the user is actually the product, not the customer. He said at the time that at Apple, they believe in great customer experience that doesn’t come at the expense of people’s privacy.

Schmidt, as expected, reacted to Cook’s words and said that the company has been working very hard to protect users’ information from other companies, the government or hackers. He also noted that it’s possible for users to change their settings and share less information with Google.

“Someone didn’t brief him correctly on Google’s policies. It’s unfortunate for him,” Schmidt burned the Apple CEO.
Encryption plans annoy law enforcement

Google has recently unveiled plans to allow Gmail users to encrypt their emails, while Android phones will also be encrypted by default when the next operating system version is released later this year. Similar plans have been exposed by Apple, and this has attracted the criticism of several important names.

James Comey, FBI director, said that such encryption powers encourages people to feel as if they are above the law, while outgoing US Attorney General Eric Holder played the “think about the children” card by saying that such measures would only make it more difficult for law enforcement to get its hands on data, even when a warrant has been issued.

Yesterday, Troels Oerting, chief of the European Cybercrime Centre and the Europol Assistant Director, said that people don’t know the difference between privacy and anonymity. He stated that in an effort to get the former, the latter makes life easier for criminals.

While he didn’t directly name Google and Apple in his speech, he made it clear that his opinion echoed those of Comey and Holder.

Eric Schmidt wanted to make sure he lands a final blow to Apple’s Tim Cook by pointing out that, in the past year, there have been no significant data breaches of Google. On the other hand, celebrity accounts were hacked and nude photos posted online just weeks ago, mostly due to the lacking security settings Apple set on its service.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Eric-Schmidt-Data-Is-Much-Safer-With-Google-Than-Apple-460955.shtml

[eestirula3]

Mis telefoniga on tegu?

[Max Powers]

Johns phone

[Tanel]

http://blog.gsmarena.com/johns-phone-reminds-us-what-phones-were-created-for/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John%27s_Phone

[Le Inc]

[pluto]

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