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Andium
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liitunud: 16.08.2002
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18.01.2012 21:22:33
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Google voiks uheks paevaks oma teenused koik kinni panna. Oleks nali majas.
sellest peaks juba piisama.
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destiny12
Piiratud kasutaja

liitunud: 26.12.2007
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18.01.2012 21:24:11
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Google, youtube jne. Ja mitte osaliselt vaid täielik shut down.
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Anna tooli
liitunud: 16.03.2006
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18.01.2012 21:27:16
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Spoiler 
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dud66
HV veteran

liitunud: 20.08.2007
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18.01.2012 21:30:08
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Mis möllad,,
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Andium
HV veteran
liitunud: 16.08.2002
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18.01.2012 21:34:32
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destiny12 kirjutas: |
Google, youtube jne. Ja mitte osaliselt vaid täielik shut down. |
jep, telekanalid voiksid ka kaasa minna. naitavad ainult musta pilti ning kirja
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Deadlock
Kreisi kasutaja
liitunud: 16.07.2004
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HacaX
HV Guru

liitunud: 22.01.2004
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18.01.2012 22:08:10
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Andium kirjutas: |
destiny12 kirjutas: |
Google, youtube jne. Ja mitte osaliselt vaid täielik shut down. |
jep, telekanalid voiksid ka kaasa minna. naitavad ainult musta pilti ning kirja |
.Yeah, right, justnagu telekanalitel oleks midagi selle vastu kui konkurentsmeedia kasutuskõlbmatu oleks. Sellest rääkimata, et suurem osa telekanaleid kuuluvad nendelesamadele isikutele kes tsenseerimist pooldavad (kas siis otsese omandina või stiilis oman-korporatsiooni-mis-omab-korporatsiooni-millele-kuulub-firma-millele-kuulub-X-protsenti-telekanalist).
Muidu see JavaScripti teema peaks minu teada SEO taga seisma, s.o. ei Wikipeedia ega teised ole huvitatud otsitulemuste edetabelis tahapoole liikumast (mida võib oodata kui kõik nende lehed kas 404 või ühte ja sama "Stop SOPA" teksti hakkaks väljastama, Googlebot jt ju teadupärast seisma ei jää).
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Killer-Bea
HV kasutaja

liitunud: 20.09.2006
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18.01.2012 22:15:13
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maatriks kirjutas: |
Google juhid pandaks ilmselt vangi, kui nad sihilikult kinni peaksid panema midagi seal. |
Google on omatud samade isikute poolt kes seda SOPA ja PIPA seaduseelnõu sisse tahavad tuua. Pole mõtet endale ju auku kaevata, sama facebookiga. Rääkimata suurematest meediakanalitest.
Wiki poolt tore üritus, aga paraku on mul tunne, et see jääb vaid hüüdja hääleks kõrbes.
Obama targutab niisama, aga see eelnõu läheb läbi ka ilma temata ja kui ta julgeb suu lahti teha siis, kes veel mäletab mis kennedyga juhtus...
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Deadlock
Kreisi kasutaja
liitunud: 16.07.2004
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18.01.2012 23:54:45
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https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
Killer-Bea kirjutas: |
Pole mõtet endale ju auku kaevata, sama facebookiga. |
Mark Zuckerberg:
The internet is the most powerful tool we have for creating a more open and connected world. We can't let poorly thought out laws get in the way of the internet's development. Facebook opposes SOPA and PIPA, and we will continue to oppose any laws that will hurt the internet. The world today needs political leaders who are pro-internet. We have been working with many of these folks for months on better alternatives to these current proposals. I encourage you to learn more about these issues and tell your congressmen that you want them to be pro-internet. You can read more about our views here: https://www.facebook.com/FacebookDC?sk=app_329139750453932.
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Andium
HV veteran
liitunud: 16.08.2002
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19.01.2012 16:28:01
Google says 4.5 million people signed anti-SOPA petition today |
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Today was nuts, right?
Google launched a petition. Wikipedia voted to shut itself off. Senators' websites went down just from the sheer surge of voters trying to write them. NYC and SF geeks had protests that packed city blocks.
You made history today: nothing like this has ever happened before. Tech companies and users teamed up. Tens of millions of people who make the internet what it is joined together to defend their freedoms. The free network defended itself. Whatever you call it, the bottom line is clear: from today forward, it will be much harder to mess up the internet.
The really crazy part? We might even win.
Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators publicly opposing PIPA. Last week there were 5. And it just takes just 41 solid "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate. What seemed like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.
But don't trust predictions. The forces behind SOPA & PIPA (mostly movie companies) can make small changes to these bills until they know they have the votes to pass. Members of Congress know SOPA & PIPA are unpopular, but they don't understand why--so they're easily duped by superficial changes. The Senate returns next week, and the next few days are critical. Here are two things to think about:
1. Plan on calling your Senator every day next week. Pick up the phone each morning and call your Senators' offices, until they vote "no" on cloture. If your site participated today, consider running a "Call the Senate" link all next week.
2. Tomorrow, drop in at your Senators' district offices. We don't have a cool map widget to show you the offices nearest you (we're too exhausted! any takers?). So do it the old fashioned way: use Google, or the phonebook to find the address, and just walk in, say you oppose PIPA, and urge the Senator to vote "no" on cloture. These drop-in visits make our spectacular online protests more tangible and credible.
That's it for now. Be proud and stay on it!
--Holmes, Tiffiniy, and the whole Fight for the Future team.
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P.S. Huge credit goes to participants in the 11/16 American Censorship Day protest: Mozilla, 4chan, BoingBoing, Tumblr, TGWTG, and thousands of others. That's what got this ball rolling! Reddit, both the community and the team behind it, you're amazing. And of course, thanks to the Wikimedians whose patient and inexorable pursuit of the right answer brought them to take world-changing action. Thanks to David S, David K, Cory D, and E Stark for bold action at critical times.
P.P.S. If you haven't already, show this video to as many people as you can. It works! http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/
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Google says 4.5 million people signed anti-SOPA petition today
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2012/01/google-anti-sopa-petition.html
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Bluebull kirjutas: |
Mark Zuckerberg:
The internet is the most powerful tool we have for creating a more open and connected world. We can't let poorly thought out laws get in the way of the internet's development. Facebook opposes SOPA and PIPA, and we will continue to oppose any laws that will hurt the internet. The world today needs political leaders who are pro-internet. We have been working with many of these folks for months on better alternatives to these current proposals. I encourage you to learn more about these issues and tell your congressmen that you want them to be pro-internet. You can read more about our views here: https://www.facebook.com/FacebookDC?sk=app_329139750453932. |
Mis ta jahub, pangu FB paevaks kinni, kaos majas. Voi kardab, et kui FB korraks kinni inimesed ei soovigi enam FB minna, sest paris elu hakkas meeldima. Sellest jahumisest pole kasu midagi.
HacaX kirjutas: |
Andium kirjutas: |
destiny12 kirjutas: |
Google, youtube jne. Ja mitte osaliselt vaid täielik shut down. |
jep, telekanalid voiksid ka kaasa minna. naitavad ainult musta pilti ning kirja |
.Yeah, right, justnagu telekanalitel oleks midagi selle vastu kui konkurentsmeedia kasutuskõlbmatu oleks. Sellest rääkimata, et suurem osa telekanaleid kuuluvad nendelesamadele isikutele kes tsenseerimist pooldavad (kas siis otsese omandina või stiilis oman-korporatsiooni-mis-omab-korporatsiooni-millele-kuulub-firma-millele-kuulub-X-protsenti-telekanalist). |
Tosi aga kurb.
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Veiks96
HV vaatleja
liitunud: 09.05.2010
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20.01.2012 10:40:59
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Mis möllad, kirjutas: |
Spoiler 
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Kas sa alla kirjutasid, et selle Copyright on 9gag, ah?
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Andium
HV veteran
liitunud: 16.08.2002
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20.01.2012 23:59:07
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Ja siin head uudised.
Hi everyone!
A big hurrah to you!!!!! We’ve won for now -- SOPA and PIPA were dropped by Congress today -- the votes we’ve been scrambling to mobilize against have been cancelled.
The largest online protest in history has fundamentally changed the game. You were heard.
On January 18th, 13 million of us took the time to tell Congress to protect free speech rights on the internet. Hundreds of millions, maybe a billion, people all around the world saw what we did on Wednesday. See the amazing numbers here and tell everyone what you did.
This was unprecedented. Your activism may have changed the way people fight for the public interest and basic rights forever.
The MPAA (the lobby for big movie studios which created these terrible bills) was shocked and seemingly humbled. “‘This was a whole new different game all of a sudden,’ MPAA Chairman and former Senator Chris Dodd told the New York Times. ‘[PIPA and SOPA were] considered by many to be a slam dunk.’”
“'This is altogether a new effect,' Mr. Dodd said, comparing the online movement to the Arab Spring. He could not remember seeing 'an effort that was moving with this degree of support change this dramatically' in the last four decades, he added."
Tweet with us, shout on the internet with us, let's celebrate: Round of applause to the 13 million people who stood up - #PIPA and #SOPA are tabled 4 now. #13millionapplause
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We're indebted to everyone who helped in the beginning of this movement -- you, and all the sites that went out on a limb to protest in November -- Boing Boing and Mozilla Foundation (and thank you Tumblr, 4chan)! And the grassroots groups -- Public Knowledge, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Demand Progress, CDT, and many more.
#SOPA and #PIPA will likely return in some form. But when they do, we'll be ready. Can you make a donation to Fight for the Future, to help us keep this fire going?
Donate
We changed the game this fall, and we're not gonna stop. $8, $20, every little bit helps.
13 million strong,
Tiffiniy, Holmes, Joshua, Phil, CJ, Donny, Douglas, Nicholas, Dean, David S. and Moore... Fight for the Future!
P.S. China's internet censorship system reminds us why the fight for democratic principles is so important:
In the New Yorker: "Fittingly, perhaps, the discussion has unfolded on Weibo, the Twitter-like micro-blogging site that has a team of censors on staff to trim posts with sensitive political content. That is the arrangement that opponents of the bill have suggested would be required of American sites if they are compelled to police their users’ content for copyright violations. On Weibo, joking about SOPA’s similarities to Chinese censorship was sensitive enough that some posts on the subject were almost certainly deleted (though it can be hard to know).
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After Chinese Web users got over the strangeness of hearing Americans debate the merits of screening the Web for objectionable content, they marvelled at the American response. Commentator Liu Qingyan wrote:
‘We should learn something from the way these American Internet companies protested against SOPA and PIPA. A free and democratic society depends on every one of us caring about politics and fighting for our rights. We will not achieve it by avoiding talk about politics.’"
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(press release is here: https://fightfortheftr.wordpress.com/press-releases/)
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SKG
HV Ihaldatuim Poissmees

liitunud: 27.01.2003
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21.01.2012 16:23:43
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Google osalemine selles on minu arust vägagi kaval ja silmakirjalik. Nad on juba aastaid valinud, milliseid lehti nad indekseerivad ja videosi YouTube panna lasevad ning mida mitte ehk siis Google teenuseid kasutades pole sul nii või naa võimalik jõuda teatud infoni tänu nende tsensuuurile. Ja seda kõik enne SOPA/PIPA/ACTA tutvustamist.
Wikipedias samuti teatud vastakate teemakäsitluste juures gatekeeperid valves ja "ebasobiv" info kustutatakse.
Paipossi võib ju mängida, aga mina näen neid kui kahe persega usse.
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Killer-Bea
HV kasutaja

liitunud: 20.09.2006
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21.01.2012 21:41:09
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SKG kirjutas: |
Google osalemine selles on minu arust vägagi kaval ja silmakirjalik. Nad on juba aastaid valinud, milliseid lehti nad indekseerivad ja videosi YouTube panna lasevad ning mida mitte ehk siis Google teenuseid kasutades pole sul nii või naa võimalik jõuda teatud infoni tänu nende tsensuuurile. Ja seda kõik enne SOPA/PIPA/ACTA tutvustamist.
Wikipedias samuti teatud vastakate teemakäsitluste juures gatekeeperid valves ja "ebasobiv" info kustutatakse.
Paipossi võib ju mängida, aga mina näen neid kui kahe persega usse. |
Aga nii ongi, et inimestelt midagi välja pressida tuleb tekitada probleemi ja pakkuda lahendust.
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sa ei või postitada uusi teemasid siia foorumisse sa ei või vastata selle foorumi teemadele sa ei või muuta oma postitusi selles foorumis sa ei või kustutada oma postitusi selles foorumis sa ei või vastata küsitlustele selles foorumis sa ei saa lisada manuseid selles foorumis sa võid manuseid alla laadida selles foorumis
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