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Haruldasel kombel on Apple pealik Steve Jobs kommenteerinud avalikus kirjas oma otsust loobuda Adobe Flashi tehnoloogiast iPhone ja iPadi seadmetel. Tegemist olevat reliktiga, mitte aga tulevikuga. Jobs märgib, et Flash loodi PC ajastul ning PC-dele, mis kasutavad hiirt. Uued standardid nagu HTML5 võidavad pihuseadmetes ja lõpuks seetõttu ka arvutites.

Adobe peaks hoopiski huvituma vingete HTML5 lahenduste väljatöötamisest ning jätma Apple kritiseerimise. Flash sai tugeva kriitika osaliseks - tegemist olevat number üks põhjusega Mac arvutite kokkujooksmisel. Kokkuvõtvalt: Flash on vigane, Apple ei vaja seda ning Jobs kasutab isiklikku mõjujõudu koos firma rahakotiga selle välja suretamiseks. Adobelt pole veel ametlikku kommentaari saabunud sellise avalduse kohta.

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Internet Explorerit arendava osakonna pealik Dean Hachamovitš teatas, et IE9 hakkab kasutama vaid h.264 standardit HTML5 põhjal videofailide taasesitamiseks. Paistab, et ka Microsoft on saanud väga sõbraks HTML5-ga, mis veelgi vähendab võimalusi Flashi ja Adobe edasiseks õitsenguks.

Huvitav on fakt, et taoline ülestunnistus sattus samale päevale, mil Steve Jobs suvatses suud paotada Flashi (mitte)kasutamise kohta.

Loe ka IEBlogist: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2010/04/29/html5-video.aspx

[Chaza!]

Siinkohal peab nõustuma sellega, et flash nüüd midagi head küll pole. Suht hästi toimib windowsi all, väga halb performace linuxi all ja no siis tundub, et ka maci all midagi head pole.

[1dumbpcuser]

[purexl]

Võiks tulla juba see aeg millal võib rahuliku südamega selle faking ##### ära installeerida. Ainsaks "piduriks" ongi praegu ainult videote vaatamine...

[Tomorrow]

Seega pushivad ühte aga kokkuvõttes on need sama :
Flash=Kinnine standard
HTML5+h.264=h.264 litsentsitasud

Google,Microsoft ja Apple tahavad vägisi Firefoxi välja suretada paistab

[ahvilõust]

Youtubis nii palju tasuta muusikat, ime ei ole, et flashil nii palju vaenlasi.

[Renka]

No tgelikult võiks FF ja Opera kasutada vabalt OSi poolt pakutavat h.264 dekoodrit. Aga siin on juba põhimõtte küsimus mängus. Linuxi platvorm jääks siis üldse videotest ilma pmst. Hetkel jääb küll alles flashi fallback aga kauaks?

[Marie]

Flash Player 64bit, seda vist pole, viimati kui üritasin ei saanud 64bit brauseril Flash Playerit tööle, tuli kasutada vana brauserit edasi, ka hetkel tundub, et ainult x86-based

[R A T]

Milleks sulle 64bit brauser?
32bit brauser töötab väga edukalt ju 64 biti all - otsene vajadus 64bit brauseri järgi ju puudub...

[teretalv]

ega ma pole ainus kellele flash reklaamid närvidele käivad

[Reedikl]

Flash iseenesest mulle istub kuna see on lihne, nii rakenduste loomine kui ka bannerid. Ainuke jama on see, et nad laevad ennast ülesse sada aastat(hetkel vist paremat moodust kui flash ei ole?? html5-ga tuleb midagi? nii et ei saa nuriseda, samas minu nett on ka kiviajast), arvuti protsessor kütab ennast 84 kraadi peale ja flash on abiks browseri kokku jooksutamisele(firefox, IE-ga ei ole veel juhtunud.)

Ootan huviga, mis Flashi asemel meile pakkuma hakatakse! Silverlight vist oli pks alternatiiv, veidi olen näppinud ja muljetavaldav. Eriti midagi ei oska sellega teha.

[inc]

[wolfe]

Siin lahatakse see artikkel põhjalikult lahti. Päris naeruväärseid noppeid saab sealt.

[Marie]

[AJ]

Responses to Steve Jobs rant
http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24448

Spoiler

tsitaat:

Gordon’s alive?! Steve Jobs' decision to publicly address the issue of why Apple doesn't support Adobe Flash on the iPhone operating system has elicited a ton of response and commentary from the industry, the media and end-users. So, for once, rather than give you our own views we're bringing you everyone else's, starting with the Tech industry. Kevin Lynch, CTO Adobe This morning Apple posted some thoughts about Flash on their web site. The primary issue at hand is that Apple is choosing to block Adobe's widely used runtimes as well as a variety of technologies from other providers. Clearly, a lot of people are passionate about both Apple and Adobe and our technologies. We feel confident that were Apple and Adobe to work together as we are with a number of other partners, we could provide a terrific experience with Flash on the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. However, as we posted last week, given the legal terms Apple has imposed on developers, we have already decided to shift our focus away from Apple devices for both Flash Player and AIR. We are working to bring Flash Player and AIR to all the other major participants in the mobile ecosystem, including Google, RIM, Palm (soon to be HP), Microsoft, Nokia and others. We look forward to delivering Flash Player 10.1 for Android smartphones as a public preview at Google I/O in May, and then a general release in June. From that point on, an ever increasing number and variety of powerful, Flash-enabled devices will be arriving which we hope will provide a great landscape of choice. Dean Hachamovitch, GM, Internet Explorer, Microsoft There's been a lot of posting about video and video formats on the web recently. This is a good opportunity to talk about Microsoft's point of view. The future of the web is HTML5. Microsoft is deeply engaged in the HTML5 process with the W3C. HTML5 will be very important in advancing rich, interactive web applications and site design. The HTML5 specification describes video support without specifying a particular video format. We think H.264 is an excellent format. In its HTML5 support, IE9 will support playback of H.264 video only. H.264 is an industry standard, with broad and strong hardware support. Because of this standardization, you can easily take what you record on a typical consumer video camera, put it on the web, and have it play in a web browser on any operating system or device with H.264 support (e.g. a PC with Windows 7). Recently, we publicly showed IE9 playing H.264-encoded video from YouTube. You can read about the benefits of hardware acceleration here, or see an example of the benefits at the 26:35 mark here. For all these reasons, we're focusing our HTML5 video support on H.264. Other codecs often come up in these discussions. The distinction between the availability of source code and the ownership of the intellectual property in that available source code is critical. Today, intellectual property rights for H.264 are broadly available through a well-defined program managed by MPEG LA. The rights to other codecs are often less clear, as has been described in the press. Of course, developers can rely on the H.264 codec and hardware acceleration support of the underlying operating system, like Windows 7, without paying any additional royalty. Today, video on the web is predominantly Flash-based. While video may be available in other formats, the ease of accessing video using just a browser on a particular website without using Flash is a challenge for typical consumers. Flash does have some issues, particularly around reliability, security, and performance. We work closely with engineers at Adobe, sharing information about the issues we know of in ongoing technical discussions. Despite these issues, Flash remains an important part of delivering a good consumer experience on today's web.

[3001]

et kõik ühtemoodi aru saaks (lihtsalt et lugejad kes asjaga kursis ei ole saaks aur millest räägitakse)
IE9 töetab ainult h.264 -kehtib vaid html5 raames
ie9 toetab flash edasi
ja hetkel ei ole html5 standard lukus ka veel - et seal võib palju muutuda

PS! youtube.com/html5 - saavad juba kõik kasutada (peab olema html5 toetav browser )

[Goon]

Ma ise arvan et flash enne 5 aastat kuhugi ei kao. Kasvõi juba sellepärast see eeldab uuemat internet browseri tõmbamist ja mitte kõik ei viitsi või ei oska seda teha. Sellest tulenevalt pole seni ka mõtet luua kodulehti html5´s.
Ei tea mismoodi mõeldakse "kujundada" koodiga mingit reklaami et see ka hea välja näeb.
Ja eks Adobe teeb flashile ka mingeid uusi vidinaid juurde mis on html5-st paremad - ei tasu loota, et Adobe vaatab käed rüppes kuidas html5 nende leiva ära võtab

[Tomorrow]

[RReinu]

Ei tea....adobe on suht parim firma keda tean, nende tooted on minu kasutusevaldkonnas väga tähtsal kohal... kuid ei usu mina, et Adobe käed rüppes istuma jääb....riisisööjad nii ei tee...

[Celos]

[Tomorrow]

[Renka]

tomorrow, 9% on päris suur number siiski.

Iga kümnes inimene

[Tomorrow]

[Hendrique]