[peet]

[Afnoks]

OK...ma annan alla...ei suuda enam uut spriesti horde poolel leveldada
keegi 70 priesti ei taha vahetada 70 druidi vastu ? holy või shadow pole vahet...ja gearis kah pole vahet
druid ise on Al'Akir'is ja horde
feral tank gear on täitsa korralik...paar epicut jne....feral dps gear on ühe epicuga

[Timberg]

[Ho Ho]

[peet]

BT ja Sunwell gearis, kui aus olla, pole absoluutselt mingisugust manaprobleemi õnneks. Tõsi, antud hetkel eeldan ma küll raidbuffide olemasolu enda peal (BoW, MoTW, BoK, Spirit).

Mis puutub enda dpsi Brutallusel, siis ma olen suutnud ~1622 välja pigistada caster grupis: Ele Shaman, maag, 2 locki ja spriest. Kõikidel on LW, BLi sai korra.

[Timberg]

Kurat hoho sa oled endiselt selline friik. Mul on hea meel, et tasemel pve raiding gildi said, sa sobid sinna teiste friikide juurde .)

[prtv]

Niipalju kui ma seda teemat jälginud olen siis WoW on täielik raketiteadus.

[Tomv]

[peet]

[Herr Kurm]

lol @ your hunters. l2dps.

[Ho Ho]

[V3rpooz]

[daman]

Krt, ma mängin ka Wowi pisut, aga sorry mehed, ma ei saa teie jutust mitte sittagi aru Kümnest sõnast 9 on lühendid, mille tähendust ei oska aimata kah mitte.

[Ho Ho]

Vahel on isegi nats kurb mõelda, et Timberg kutsus mind umbes pool aastat tagasi mängima ning praeguseks hetkeks olen ma pve's (vist) rohkem saavutanud kui tema kogu oma aastatepikkuse karjääri jooksul
Eks ma lohutan end sellega, et pvp's oli ta märksa kõvem tegija

[Timberg]

Spoiler

[Psych0]

[Scart]

Pole hullu poisid, ma panin ühele 5k trade aknasse, totu istus 2 tundi ja anus, et ma "Trade" vajutaks

Ja see oli enne TBCd btw

[painkillah]

farmer

[Scart]

[Herr Kurm]

[Ho Ho]

Nuh, tehniliselt võttes olen ma isegi ilma 4pT6'ta ainult ~50-100 dps'i maas tank&spank bossfightides teistest sp'dest kes on umbes kuu aega SWP kaht bossi farminud seega päris niisama mind kaasa ei lohistata. Poleks ma teinud igasugu lollusi oma geariga* oleks vahe väiksem olnud.

*) tükk aega jooksin ringi ilma offhandita, SR saapad unustasin teroni ajaks jalga, ei equippinud just saadud uut belti mis vanast ~20 spelldamage jagu parem oli jne

[kempi]

[Herr Kurm]

Sorri. Mul ei ole ühtegi juppi t6 contendist ja maage buffides lasen me tanknspankis sustained 1450 dps-i ära. L2play.

[Ho Ho]

Herr Kurm, sa mõnd oma wws reporti ei soovi jagada?
armory report oleks kõrval samuti tore näha või vähemasti siis mitte-anonüümne WWS

[gloom]

Herr Kurm, õpime tundma ennem millise encounteriga tegu on, päris tank & spank see pole siiski.

[Ho Ho]

gloom, eeldusel et healerid ei slacki ja on enam-vähem normaalse geariga see siiski on seda. SP'd lasevad seal täie auruga ning SWD jääb ainult paaril korral kasutamata. Hunterid ei pea muretsema et nad iga 12s tagant endale 3.5k+ jagu haiget teevad.

[Herr Kurm]

[gloom]

Hiljem tõesti, alguses võib natukene probleem siiski olla. Üleval näiteks toodud WWSi peal Rahi dps-i nii heaks ei kiidaks, aga Illuria on surva, ning dps on mõistetav. Aga hunterile on siiski vaja õiget gruppi, et üle 2k++ lasta ^^

[Herr Kurm]

Surv hunter on lasknud 2.2k välja

[gloom]

Koos nelja trummi ja õige grupiga Ise lasin survana ka 1700 piires Illidani peal, kuid encounter on üldse teine (ja gear ka sellel ajal).

[Ho Ho]

[gloom]

Kui võtame lahti spreadsheeti ja võrdleme geare erinevate buffidega siis paneb tegema küll Hunteril pole ju muud teha kui spammida macrot mis vahel clipib. Ja arvestades, et T6 geariga on hitti cappi raskem kokku saada kui t5/kara/za geariga siis on t6 hunteri dps märgatavalt väiksem.

[Herr Kurm]

Vahe on tegelikult väga kõrge. 4pct6 + ideaalne kiirus 3:2 tegemiseks, imbad trinketid samaks eesmärgiks (DST + madness = drool), parim dualwield wepside combo presunwell ja rohkem agi mis skaleerub kingsiga. Kuigi minu meelest on tal liiga palju t6 juppe, on dps wise paremat geari mis ei kanna eesliidet "Gronnstalker" ja on kättesaadavad BT/Hyalist.

[gloom]

Samas väga palju oleneb mängijast kes oskab oma petti korralikult elus ja max dps time peal hoida.

[Herr Kurm]

Rahi gear on minu omast mäekõrguselt üle, seepärast teebki nalja selline dps.

[Ho Ho]

Konkreetsed itemid ju ei oma väga olulist tähtsust kui neil just set bonust/proci pole. Kokkuvõttes lähevad arvesse ainult statsid mis neist tulevad.

[Herr Kurm]

[Ho Ho]

[Herr Kurm]

ütleme nii et teatud hetkeni kuni veel 3:2 macro polnud välja mõeldud oli rangedi kiirus peale serpents swiftnessi kõige tähtsam stat. A la kara wolfslayer püss oli parim BM weapon ingame kuna sa said mõnusasti minimaalsete pausidega 1:1 rotatsiooni teha. 2.6-2.8 on idealkiirus enne talente ja haste geari suht. Peale 3:2 manitot on ideaalkiirus 2.17 tuuri peale talente ja haste geari mis tegelikult tähendab et aeglaste 3.0 wepsidega nagu enamus engame ranged wepse on (betrayer, blistlebritz) on nüüd väga head. Samas peab ka jälgima et sul hasted liiga kiireks asi ei läheks (hawk, trummid, misiganes) tänu hidden autoshot cooldownile. Julmalt geniliseerides võib öelda et rotatsiooni täpselt paika saamine on olulisem kui gear ja sellel olevad statsid.

[eShelobik]

Herr Kurm, no offence aga sa oled ennasttäis idioot. sinu jutu järgi kõik t6 contentit farmivad guildid omavad nuub huntereid, keta sina hetkega üle lasegsid. sa pole elusees t6 contentit näinudgi, brutallust veelvähem ja sa prääksud siin sellest, kuidas sina lasid gruuli peal rohkem dps'i. samuti jutt, et sul on serveri topguildide hunteritest parem gear ... ja sind ei võeta guildi vaid irvitatakse su üle ... well, äkki ikka on asi sinus, et sa hindad oma geari valesdi ja oled totaalne äpardus... ? kui ma praegu meenutama hakkan, siis sa olid ju see vend kes gyrot hunteri relvaks pidas, missest, et tegemist oli puhta tanki relvaga:D

[Ho Ho]

Aga ma tapsin eile Kalecose

Btw, WotLK closed beta algas/algab kohe.
Patchnoted: http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/17/wotlk-beta-patch-notes-and-other-news/
Suts gearinäiteid: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=10361.0

Nats kurb, et blessing of salvation kadus, ilma selleta on meie shadowformi threat reduction vägagi vajalik. Samas ega ma niiväga ei kurda et selle asemel on uus spell, mis 10s jooksul vähendab threati 20% samal ajal damaget ja healingut 10% madalamal hoides

[painkillah]

Spoiler

tsitaat:

Paladin * All Auras now affect all party and raid members within the area of effect. * Anticipation (Protection) moved to tier 1, now increases chance to dodge by 1/2/3/4/5%. * Avenger's Shield (Protection) cast time reduced to .5 seconds, duration increased to 10 seconds. * Avenging Wrath no longer causes Forebearance, damage increase reduced to 20%, now increases healing done by 20%. * Blessing of Freedom renamed Hand of Freedom. Only one Hand spell can be on the target per paladin at any one time. Now costs 6% of base mana. * Blessing of Light and Greater Blessing of Light removed. Their effects have been folded into all relevant abilities. * Blessing of Protection renamed Hand of Protection. Only one Hand spell can be on the target per paladin at any one time. All ranks now cost 6% of base mana. * Blessing of Sacrifice renamed Hand of Sacrifice, is now only 1 rank and transfers 20% of the damage taken to the caster, duration reduced to 12 seconds, cooldown increased to 2 minutes. Only one Hand spell can be on the target per paladin at any one time. Now costs 6% of base mana. * Blessing of Salvation renamed Hand of Salvation, now reduces total threat on the target by 2% per second for 10 seconds while also reducing all damage and healing done by 10%. Only one Hand spell can be on the target per paladin at any one time. Now costs 6% of base mana. * Conviction (Retribution) now increases critical chance with all spells and melee attacks. * Divine Intellect (Holy) moved to tier 2, increases total Intellect by 3/6/9/12/15%. * Divine Intervention cooldown reduced to 20 minutes. * Divine Protection and Divine Shield now cost 3% of base mana. * Divine Purpose (Retribution) now reduces chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 1/2/3%. * Divine Strength (Holy) moved to tier 1 in the Protection tree. * Greater Blessing of Salvation removed. * Hammer of Justice now costs 3% of base mana. * Hammer of Wrath is now considered a Retribution spell, moved from Holy, mana cost reduced, missile speed increased, now usable on targets below 35% health. * Healing Light (Holy) moved to tier 2. * Holy Shield (Protection) cooldown reduced to 8 seconds. * Holy Shock (Holy) range changed to 20/40 yards when used on enemies/friends respectively, cooldown reduced to 6 seconds. * Holy Wrath is now instant cast, causes a 3 second stun, cooldown reduced to 30 seconds, radius reduced to 10 yards. * Illumination (Holy) moved to tier 3. * Improved Concentration Aura (Protection) moved to the Holy tree. * Improved Concentration Aura moved from the Protection tree to tier 4 in the Holy tree. * Improved Devotion Aura (Protection) moved to tier 4, reduced to 3 ranks, now increases armor of Devotion Aura by 17/34/50% and increases all healing done to units affected by Devotion Aura by 1/2/3%. * Improved Hammer of Justice (Protection) now reduces cooldwon by 10/20/30 secs. * Improved Righteous Fury (Protection) threat bonus folded into base spell, talent still reduces all damage taken by 2/4/6%. * Improved Sanctity Aura (Retribution) renamed Sanctified Retribution, now causes all units affected by Retribution Aura to cause 2% more damage. * Improved Seal of Righteousness (Holy) moved to tier 1, renamed XXX, now affects Seal of Righteousness, Seal of Vengeance and Seal of Corruption. * Improved Seal of the Crusader (Retribution) renamed Heart of the Crusader and the effects now apply to all Judgement spells. * Judgement of Justice will no longer prevent Fear effects, only prevent NPCs from fleeing (e.g. at low health). * Lay on Hands no longer drains all mana, cooldown reduced to 20 minutes. * Pure of Heart (Holy) reduced to 2 ranks, now reduces duration of Curse and Disease effects by 25/50%. * Redoubt (Protection) moved to tier 2. * Repentance (Retribution) mana cost changed to 9% of base, duration increased to 1 minute (10 second PvP duration), now usable against Demons, Dragonkin, Giants, Humanoids and Undead. * Retribution Aura damage increased and now gains damage based on Holy spell power. * Righteous Fury now increases threat caused by Holy damage by 90%. * Sanctified Light (Holy) now also increases the critical chance of Holy Shock. * Sanctity Aura (Retribution) removed. * Seal of Justice/Judgement reduced to 1 rank with all the effects of the previous rank 2, the Judgement effect no longer prevents Fear. * Seal of the Crusader has been removed. The effects of Judgement of the Crusader have been folded into all relevant abilities. * Seal of Vengeance damage over time effect duration increased to 18 seconds. * Spiritual Focus (Holy) moved to tier 1. * Stoicism (Protection) moved to tier 2, now reduces duration of Stun effects by 10/20/30% and reduces chance your spells will be resisted by 10/20/30%. * Toughness (Protection) moved to tier 3. * Turn Undead (ranks 1 and 2) removed. Turn Evil now granted at level 24, mana cost changed to 9% of base. * Unyielding Faith (Holy) moved to tier 2.

OH FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES LOL

wotlki värk siis :p

[Ho Ho]

Vaadates esimesi instance droppe siis spelldamagega plate itemeid on suht palju. Tundub et valisin suht õige aja oma pala leveldamiseks

[Timberg]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/gameplay/achievements.xml

Soul Link (Demonology) is now an 11-point talent (used to be a 31-point talent), but the 5% bonus damage from this talent has been removed. In addition, the damage absorbed by Soul Link is now 15%, down from 20%.

Howl of Terror now costs 15% of base mana.

Curse of Recklessness will no longer prevent Fear effects, only prevent NPCs from fleeing (e.g. at low health).

[Ho Ho]

Pulli hakkab saama muidugi kui paladinidelt kaob ära blessing of salvation. SP'del veab, nemad saavad erinevalt teistest klassidest "sisseehitatud" salvationi

[Herr Kurm]

[Ho Ho]

[Rasvane]

prolly hakkan pigem D3 mängima kui wotlki :/

[Ho Ho]

Soh, ja sinust ei saagi 5 miljondetat DK'd?

[Rasvane]

neid patch note classide juures lugedes läks süda pahaks lihtsalt..