[Brom]

Asi on selles, et sa ei pea lepingut sõlmima kohe ja mingeid penalties'd nad sulle küll määrata ei saa. Ma olen kindel, et dev team leiab lahenduse.

[punktiir]

kas vastab tõele, et vana iphone uue vastu vahetades saab selle kas poolmuidu või tasuta?

[M00t]

[Meelis239]

ei tea miks nad seda vana rauda peaksid tahtma nüüd kokku ajada, ei taha uskuda nagu....

[muusik]

Jep, peagi Eestis..

[Motiv8]

Tulevaste hindadega, mis vóivad tulla ka sarnased Eestis, vóib tutvuda O2 lehel http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone . Olemas subsideeritud hinnad (tasuta iphone puhul maksad 45 naela kuus ja nii 18 kuud) ja olemas ka variant pay & go, aga kahjuks puudub seal veel info.

[Vermon]

[Brom]

"Requires new 2-year AT&T rate plan, sold separately." - nad ei saa sind mingi imenipiga kinni hoida, kui sa oma telefoni oled ära ostnud.

[M00t]

[mks]

aga ega see trahv lõppkokkuvõttes odavam ei tule... ja n.ö. InStore activation, millest kõik räägivad, tähendab seda, et sa lähed Apple'i poodi või AT&T poodi ja liitud sealsamas kohe ning siis aktiveeritakse su telefon ära...

[Foxxx]

Odavam mitte, aga sul on igatpidi ausal teel iPhone.

[euro]

Aga jah... Kui ta tuleb müüki Ameerikas ja mujal Euroopas 200 dollarit, siis nad peavad ju kuskilt kokku hoidma. Ma mõtlen, et vastupidavuses vms, ja sellele pannakse veel 3g sisse. See pole normaalne minu arust, et Ameerikas laineid löönud telefoni 2. versioon tuleb 2x odavam ja igalpool siis oleks vist igal kolmandal inimesel maailmas see telefon, nii oleks mõnes mõttes hea ja mõnes halb. Kui ta tuleksi sama hinnaga nagu praegu kuulutatakse oleks küll see revolutisooniline telefon imo.

[ufo56]

Hind vast sellepärast odav et nad löövad oma müügieduga üle teised ning teenivad ikka piisavalt isegi odavalt müües.

[d3t]

Mehed, mis see siis ära ei ole? Ostad leti alt telefoni ja siis vutt vutt koju ja ziphone lahti

[juurastaja]

see on illegaalne, mkey?

[d3t]

[ePe]

Seda hinda vaadates on vägagi selge, et asjale maksab keegi rämedalt juurde. Selliste omadustega telefoni reaalne tootmishind ei saa selline olla.

AT&T teatas, et Apple enam kuutasudest osa ei saa. Järelikult oleks loogiline, et AT&T ostab need telefonid Apple käest näiteks 700$ tükk lootes teenida liitumistest ja tulevastest 3G teenustest, mida see telefon võimaldab. Kardetavsti muudab selline suur subsiidium selle maksjad senisest veelgi tigedamaks oma ainuõiguste kaitsmisel

[d3t]

ePe, vana iPhone sai apple 250 dollariga valmis tehtud ju, nüüd tootmiskulusid natukene vähendatud vist

[Vermon]

Hind vast ikka sellepärast odav, et operaatorid maksavad kinni osa.
Kui ikkagi ainult üks firma ühes piirkonnas nii populaarset telefoni müüb, siis selle eest peab kõvasti plekkima
Mõtle kui palju raha iPhone'i kasutajatelt tuleb, kui arvestada, et iPhone'i ostmisel pead paariks aastaks liituma.

Krt liiga kaua kirjutasin postitust

[d3t]

Ma ei saa aru miks Apple ei andud täieliku luba Vodafonile müüa seda telefoni üle euroopa?!

[Brom]

Spoiler

***Confidential AT&T Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***
AT&T and Apple today announced that the iPhone 3G will be available in the U.S on July 11. iPhone 3G combines three products into one small, lightweight device: a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod, and it puts the Internet in your pocket with the best e-mail, web browsing, search and maps applications ever on a mobile phone.

The new version of the iPhone harnesses the power of AT&T's broad and powerful 3G mobile broadband network, which offers 3G mobile phones download speeds of up to 1.4 Mbps.

Key Device Features:

Operates on Wi-Fi, EDGE, and 3G networks
New enterprise e-mail capability with support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync
New iPhone software development kit (SDK) to support new innovative applications
Note: 2G iPhone customers will be able to download the iPhone 2.0 software from iTunes which enables new features such as access to corporate e-mail via Microsoft ActiveSync.

New Activation Process and BRE:
The iPhone 3G will be activated at point of sale when the device is purchased, in store. The BRE period will change from 14 days to 30 days and will require the device to be returned to place of purchase before service is cancelled.

Pricing and Plans
Device Pricing:
$199 8GB and $299 16GB for new activations and qualified upgrades with 2-year agreement.

Data Plans and Pricing:
The iPhone 3G will be activated on existing AT&T voice rate plans, but new data plans have been created for the 3G device.

All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan.
Customers intending to use the iPhone 3G for access to corporate e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet are required to activate with Enterprise Data Plan for iPhone.
The 2G data rate plans will remain available for 2G devices until further notice.
IRU service discounts for both voice and data pans will apply to iPhone 3G, but not 2G iPhone.
CRU service discounts for voice and data will apply to both 2G and 3G, when on a qualifying data plan.
IRUs will not get a discount on device purchase for 2G or iPhone 3Gs.
Data Pricing will be as follows:
Consumer Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$30 - Unlimited Data (E-mail/Web), includes Visual Voicemail

Enterprise Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$45 – Unlimited Data with personal and corporate e-mail, web, includes Visual Voicemail

Upgrade Eligibility and Qualified Upgrade Pricing
Upgrade eligibility will be determined based on standard upgrade eligibility rules. Customers must be upgrade eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing. However, not all customers will be qualified upgrades. AT&T has not determined the price of the 3G device for non-qualified upgrades.

All customers will be required to sign a 2-year agreement. There will not be a "no commitment" price for the iPhone 3G.

Note: When the 3G device launches, all active postpaid customers in good standing with a 2G iPhone will be eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing for a 3G device regardless of service tenure. (Customers that would not otherwise be eligible due to tenure will be made eligible at launch).

Activation Process
The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple stores. Customers must accept AT&T and Apple Ts & Cs, sign a 2-year agreement, and select the data plan for the iPhone 3G before leaving the store. The current iTunes activation process will no longer be required for iPhone 3Gs, however a short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all AT&T stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer's device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes. Prepaid and Pick Your Plan will not be allowed on the 3G device.

The SSK has been modified to allow customers interested in the iPhone 3G to enter their information, select rate plans and data plans, and print a document that will allow COR reps to quickly access the customer's information in OPUS and save time for data entry in the activation process.

Note: In the interim, 2G iPhones will continue to be activated via iTunes - BAU. This is also true for existing AT&T customers who receive a 2G device as a gift, hand-me-down, etc. and wish to activate the device. Existing AT&T customers who switch to the 2G iPhone must tether through the iTunes process to begin using the device.

Compensation
Because the 3G device will be activated in store, compensation for the 3G device will be BAU. COR reps will receive compensation for upgrades and new activations with a 2-year agreement.

Purchase Limit
The device purchase limit will remain three (3) per customer for iPhone 3G in AT&T stores.

Allocations
If allocations are required at launch, supply chain will allocate based on January-April sales rates applied on a store-by-store basis.

Direct Fulfillment
The DF tool will be available at launch in COR for iPhone 3Gs. Customers will be required to pay for the device when the order is placed and the phone will be shipped to the store in the customer's name.

Existing Stock of 2G Devices
We will continue to sell 2G devices until stock is depleted.

Return Policy
2G Devices
Customers who recently purchased a 2G iPhone may want to return their device once they hear about the 3G model and price point, but the new device will not be available immediately. Since the announcement and launch will be about 30 days apart, we could lose some customers who are within their BRE period and want to return their device before their 14 days expires and wait for the new 3G device. We must acknowledge and address their desire to get the best device for them.

Here's how AT&T will handle 2G iPhone returns:

If a customer purchased before 5/27, we will follow BAU processes – no device returns. However, all postpaid 2G iPhone customers in good standing are upgrade eligible, so these customers will qualify to upgrade to a 3G iPhone when it is available.
If a customer purchased on or after 5/27 (within the 14-day BRE period before the product announcement on 6/9), we will let them exchange their 2G iPhone for an iPhone 3G before August 1. This means that after we launch the 3G model they can return their 2G iPhone, pay the 10% restocking fee, and purchase a new iPhone 3G before August 1.
Note: This modified return policy applies only to customers who purchase from AT&T stores.

3G Devices
The return policy for 3G is changing from 14 days to 30 days for both Apple and AT&T stores.

To cancel service within the first 30 days, the customer must return their equipment to the place of purchase (no exceptions).
If the customer cancels service after 30 days, they will be charged the ETF. The customer is not required to return the device to cancel after 30 days.
Special Notes Regarding 2G Devices

After the iPhone 3G launches, activations of 2G iPhones for new AT&T customers can be performed in COR stores or in the existing iTunes tether process. COR reps will receive compensation for activations of new AT&T customers done in store.
2G upgrades will continue to be activated via the existing iTunes tether process.
Existing 2G data plans will remain available for 2G devices until further notice.
Note: 2G iPhones are out of stock in the DCs, and the Direct Fulfillment tool for 2G is turned off. 2G iPhones have been removed from the "myRewards" incentive catalog.

Merchandising/Marketing

Current 2G iPhones should remain on device fixtures in store. Do not remove 2G demo devices until further notice.
3G demos will be pulled from stock when they arrive following BAU process for display devices.
Video loop content will be pushed to stores when it is available.
New docks and retrofit kits will be provided for existing iPhone fixtures.
The following merchandising elements will be in stores for launch:

Rate brochure and display rate card
22 x 28 poster
Window banner
Duratrans - will be available for markets to order
Coming Soon: Posters and banners are TBD
Training

Device training, including features and functionality, will be available via My CSP by 6/13.
OPUS training will begin no later than 6/20 and will be delivered via the Learning Edge.
Launch preparedness training, including last minute details, will be conducted the week of launch (if needed) via RSM or Centra sessions.
Communications/My CSP
All iPhone-related communications, inclusive of training announcements, will be posted to My CSP. Login and access are via the "Everything iPhone 3G" ad space. Or search on either keyword "iZone" or keyword "iPhone 3G" to locate.

Launch Plans
Support logistics for launch day will mirror last year's iPhone launch:

Letters will be sent to all landlords under VP/GM signature for advance notice of store hours, crowds expected, possible parking issues, etc.
Security will be provided for locations requesting armed police or unarmed, uniformed guards.
Manager checklists will be provided to support RSMs to set expectations and help them be prepared to complete all required actions.
Documents will be posted on iZone to let RSMs know when to expect delivery of launch support materials.
Job descriptions for key launch day functions will be provided for: Back Office Manager/Inventory Runner, Crowd Manager, Greeter, Product Demonstrator, and Security Support.

***Confidential AT&T Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***

[d3t]

[mks]

[M00t]

Aga nii saab küll et ootad peale ostmist 30 päeva ja siis lähed lõpetad lepingu ära, maksad trahvi ja telefon on sinu

[d3t]

lu1de, kergem osta juba letialt siis

[M00t]

[eyelids]

[spezwend]

[ffw]

siin nati hinnajuttu
http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_3g_for_$199_or_even_free__but_whats_the_catch-news-521.php

[eyelids]

[mks]

selles jutus pole midagi uut, mida siin teemas juba arutatud ei oleks ehk siis mustalt turult enam iPhone'i ei saa

[jkddp]

kui mõelda selle peale et vanal iphone turuhind oli midagi 5-6 kilo kanti ja kui vähe inimesi said seda kasutada ning kui uus tuleb 2k siis väga paljud inimesed saavad seda telefoni soetada - just hinna pärast! Kui siit edasi mõelda siis milline turuosa tuleb sellest. Usun, et teooria on see, et tehakse telefon mida võib igaüks kasutada nii mahukale-keerukale kasutajaskonnale kui ka ainult tavahelistajatele. Pole vaja erinevaid telefone toota. Sellega hoiab juba ise raha kokku. see 2000 krooni pole ju midagi. Kui vaadata, et tavaarvuti saab juba 2500 krooniga uue kätte... pean silmas just, et hind määrab turuosa!

[d3t]

jkddp, kui paljud on ennast valmis aheldama eesti kõige õelama ja kliendivaenulikuma operaatori emt'ga? Pakun et mitte igaüks. Kujutan ette iPhone tax iga kuu emt kliendile 500 eeku...

[M00t]

[mks]

ega tundub, et muud üle ei jää jah ja 500 eeku on üsna mõistlik, kui seal piiramatu andmeside ja mingi arv minuteid sees on minu arve on tavaliselt kaks korda suurem

[d3t]

mks, Elisas saan tasuta 3g interneti (piiramatu) ja kõneposti. Arved kusagil 500 eegu kanti ning minuti hind 1 kroon. Pole paha või mis?

[M00t]

mul on elisas miinimumarve kokku 144.-
sealhulgas piiramatu nett (EDGE)

[jkddp]

Näiteks minul kui emt kliendil oli enne iphone soetamist max 200 eegused arved ja ennäe. nii kui hakkasin fööni kasutama tõusid arvete suurused kuni 250% Võib juhtuda, et sellest nad hakkavadki oma kasumit tõstma. See ongi juu müügitrikk. Ostad näiteks odava liisinguga auto aga hoolduse eest maksad ikka esindushinda. Ehk siis hakkadki ju rohkem maksma. just lisateenuste eest mida muidu sa ei kasutaks. Kuna antakse sulle võimalus selle kasutamiseks siis muidugi hakkad proovima seda. Kui hakkab meeldima siis ongi kasu sees operaatoril. Seda teooriat järgides leian, et isegi kui operaator ostab need applest kallimalt ja müüb tarbijatele odavamalt edasi siis teenuse kasutamisega tekib kasum mis katab selle hinna kuhjaga. Jummala hea müügi idee ju?

[spezwend]

krt see küll halb uudis, emtiga ma küll liituda ei kavatse.

[d3t]

Mind huvitab palju emt tahab lepingu ennetähtaegse katkestamise eest 8)

[miga]

http://www.emt.ee/tuleb/

[jkddp]

[d3t]

Kirjas küll, aga ikkagi, ma ei mõista. Oleks võinud ju ainult Vodafone valida euroopa katmiseks

[beastbeats]

Kas keegi eelregistreerinutest ka hinda teab
Eks kuu aja pärast näeb, mis hinnaga ja tingimustel Soomes müügile tuleb...

[Janis]

[M@x]

Sain oma iPhone-st lahti (8gb 1.1.4) koguaeg Invisible Shield peal olnud 6 000.- eest lahti

[Foxxx]

[Anti]

Krt tuleb vist praegune telefon nurka visata ja uus ligi võtta. Mu natuke pragunenud displeiga telefoni ei osta kah keegi nagunii

Foxxx, ei ole head ilma halvata

[Janis]

[Foxxx]

velsa, No nii kliendivaenulikku suurfirmat naljalt ei leia IT-toodete turult.