[-Koppel-]

See USA asi läheb ikka nüüd järgmistel kuudel täiesti käest ära. Ei teagi kas peaks popcorni varuma või konserve. Putin nõuab Trumpilt viimaseid jõupingutusi, Zelensky räägib avameelselt "Trump is pushing Ukraine to capipulate to Russia"
USA kinnimakstud meedia räägib kuiväga nad vihkavad Zelensky-t.
Proovitakse kõik maailma probleemid Ukraina süüks keerata. Mingid tüübid on selle jutuga lavalt välja naerdud.
Aga talv on tulemas ja ma ütleks, et eelmise talve külmalaine, kui radiaatorid hakkasid lõhki külmuma, elas Kiiev napilt üle. Märksa kehvema õhukaitse ja venemaa reaktiivmootoriga droonide tule all saab see olema kohutav. Mingit lahendust seal ei paista.

[Betamax]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=29533332376251525
Muu on suva, aga päris tabav sõnastus Helme poolt.

[SKG]

Eelnevast Bloombergi artiklist.

... delaying already scarce deliveries of Patriot interceptors for ballistic missiles...


Ehk siis viivitavad interceptoritega, millede eest on juba makstud?

[MatchMaker]

link :: Ukraine 'once again' received no early warning from allies of latest Russian attacks on Kyiv

[sukelduja]

[Oisu.]

Sanktsiooni saanud laev on Vesteråleni lähedal kinni.
Laeva, mida kasutatakse Venemaa energiatootmise infrastruktuuri transportimiseks, peatas rannavalve, kui see pidi Andøya lähedal varju otsima.
Laev oli teel lõunasse, kuid tuli sisemaale ilmastiku eest varju otsima. Seejärel läks rannavalve laevadele rutiinse kontrolli läbiviimiseks, ütles relvajõudude operatiivstaabi pressiesindaja Dagbladetile.
https://borsen.dagbladet.no/nyheter/sanksjonert-skip-star-fast-utenfor-vesteralen/85289322

[netcat]

https://www.err.ee/1610170465/prantsuse-peaminister-nouab-osalisi-komandanditunde

[krr]

ilmselt ei üllata kedagi, et Greta Thunberg kohale ilmus
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/10/13/activist-greta-thunberg-joins-french-student-protests

[SKG]

Kevadel oli keskmiselt 30k/kuus. Suvel 40k/kuus. September oli ligi 50k/kuus. Kui Oktoober nii jätkub, võib 60k ohvrit ära tulla.
Starlinki limiteerimine on selgelt näha - veokite arv oli enne keskmiselt ~500/päevas kandis. Viimane nädal on tihti "ainult" 300+ olnud.






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Esimene drooniga õhu kaudu evakueerimine.

video: https://bsky.app/profile/specialkhersoncat.bsky.social/post/3my7takbpz22t
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https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/19/europe/france-protests-violence-wwk-intl-hnk
Pole seal Prantsusmaal midagi nii hullusti. Mingi paarike istub välikohvikus ja trimpab

[Oisu.]

USA presidendi Donald Trumpi väimees Jared Kushner ja tema Lähis-Ida saadik Steve Witkoff reisivad sel nädalal Norrasse Ukraina sõja lõpetamise läbirääkimiste järgmisesse vooru , teatasid kolm asjaga tuttavat inimest.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-officials-plan-travel-norway-ukraine-talks-sources-say-2026-10-19/

[SKG]

Tahavad hakata Ukrainat jms jagama?

Putin Floats a Summit With Trump and Xi to Discuss Ukraine Deal
Ukraine’s Zelensky wouldn’t be included in proposed talks, as Russia’s leader seeks to negotiate end to war favorable to Moscow
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/putin-floats-a-summit-with-trump-and-xi-to-decide-ukraines-fate-1cf6acc1

Spoiler

Russian President Vladimir Putin has proposed that he, President Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping meet next month to talk about Ukraine in an attempt to negotiate an end to the four-year conflict that would favor Moscow, said people familiar with the discussions.

The plan represents an effort by Putin to capitalize on warming ties between Trump and the Russian leader that have alarmed Ukraine and its allies in Washington and Europe. Such a summit—one without the involvement of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky—would be unprecedented and send alarm bells ringing in European capitals and beyond.

Putin floated the idea in an Oct. 9 phone call with Trump, said a former Russian intelligence officer briefed on the matter. That conversation also produced a deal for the U.S. to buy Russian diesel fuel and facilitate its sale on the global market.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov confirmed that discussions were taking place over a potential meeting.

“There is no clear understanding yet regarding the meeting itself or its potential agenda, although all three parties acknowledge the hypothetical possibility of such a meeting taking place,” he told The Wall Street Journal.

A senior U.S. official said Trump hadn’t agreed to such a summit. Still, the official said the president could be receptive to the idea, given his desire to fulfill a campaign promise to settle the war. Trump had said it would be finished on “day one” of his new term, but he is now approaching nearly two years in office.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Monday appeared to confirm discussions were continuing. “I think there’s been talks of a meeting,” he told reporters on a visit to Samarkand, Uzbekistan. “I don’t know everything’s been finalized.”

The Kremlin has suggested holding the trilateral dialogue on the sidelines of the coming Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, the people familiar with discussions said. That gathering takes place on Nov. 18 and 19 in Shenzhen, the southern Chinese tech hub.

Ukraine’s foreign minister rejected the idea of a peace summit without Kyiv, saying it would “encourage Putin to continue his war.”

“As long as he continues this terror, there should be no place for him at any table,” Andrii Sybiha wrote Monday on X.

A potential three-way dialogue on Chinese soil would mark a big step for Xi in his efforts to elevate China’s role as a diplomatic power broker, said analysts who study China. Russian officials proposed the idea to Beijing through diplomatic channels and the Chinese side has indicated it wouldn’t object if Trump is on board, said other people close to recent discussions between Moscow and Beijing.

“China wants to be seen as the pivot of the great powers, and potentially as a mediator between the U.S. and Russia,” said Yun Sun, director of the China program at the Stimson Center, a Washington think tank.

The White House declined to comment. The Chinese Embassy in Washington didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Putin has proposed a trilateral summit to both Trump and Xi on previous occasions, the former Russian intelligence officer said. This time, however, it comes during a reversal of Moscow’s fortunes with Washington.

Trump just notched a deal with Putin to get Russian diesel in a bid to lower fuel prices that have slowed the American economy and hurt Republican prospects ahead of the midterm elections. On Friday, Trump halted implementation of sanctions that were to be imposed on Russia under a bipartisan bill he signed last month, drawing criticism from lawmakers, including some of his allies.

The senior White House official said Trump made the decisions after seeing few other good options to lower prices.

The consensus among energy experts is that the Iran war is the primary cause of rising diesel prices and that the amount of fuel Russia has promised to sell wouldn’t move the market much.

At the same time, Trump has shown renewed frustration with Zelensky, saying the Ukrainian leader must stop strikes on Russian refineries and suggesting that the country needs a new president. U.S.-led efforts to broker an end to the war, meanwhile, have been largely stalled.

In a post on Truth Social on Sunday, Trump took aim at Zelensky, following Ukraine’s strike on an oil terminal in Putin’s hometown of St. Petersburg earlier in the day. He accused the Ukrainian leader of targeting Russian diesel refineries and said he “doesn’t want to end this war, and probably never did.”

Trump said he was holding off on imposing sanctions because he didn’t want to drive Russia away from the bargaining table. “I WANT THIS WAR END!” he wrote.

Moscow sees a potential trilateral dialogue as a way of cementing Russia’s membership in a club of great global powers, a status Putin has sought since he entered the Kremlin in 2000. The format also excludes from the picture Europe, which the Kremlin sees as its main obstacle to clinching victory in Ukraine.

The former Russian intelligence officer said Putin has broad, if unrealistic, ambitions for the trilateral format as a second Yalta summit, which would divide up the globe into spheres of influence.

Even if Xi and Trump are unlikely to agree to that, the image of the American, Russian and Chinese leaders negotiating the fate of one nation would be a powerful signal. In Taipei, it could reinforce fears that Taiwan’s own future might one day be bargained over in a similar forum—particularly as Beijing has never renounced the use of force to bring the self-governing democratic island under its control.

The summit isn’t without risk for Xi. Chinese officials have concerns about allowing a geopolitical side show to overshadow their designs to use APEC as a showcase of China’s role in the region, said some of the people close to the discussions.

Xi is attempting to walk a fine line between continuing his support for Putin and maintaining China’s economic ties with Europe, the people said. A trilateral meeting like this could risk drawing China more directly into the Ukraine conflict and provoke a backlash from European capitals already wary of Beijing’s tilt toward Moscow.

Aina napakamaks lähevad need asjad.


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'It's significant': Ukraine fears US is withholding allied-funded air defense supplies to pressure Kyiv
Ukrainian officials described the alleged delay as another example of political pressure that could put civilian lives at risk.
https://kyivindependent.com/its-significant-ukraine-fears-us-is-withholding-allied-funded-air-defense-supplies-to-pressure-kyiv/

[Tanel]

Karma saab lõpuks need tõprad kätte. Ainult et enne jõuavad nad tuhat sigadust korda saata ja süütuid inimelusid hävitada.

Prantsusmaa teemal: https://forum.fp.lhv.ee/t/islamiprobleem-euroopas/29951/4304

[Oisu.]

Täna osalevad Zelenskõi, Soome president Alexander Stubb, peaminister Jonas Gahr Støre ning USA saadikud Steve Witkoff ja Jared Kushner Oslos toimuvatel kõnelustel.

[Magic]

Midagi head küll sealt ei tule, kui isegi selle AIM-9X tarneid hoitakse tagasi, siis ilmselgelt minnakse survestamisega väga kaugele. Poolakatel ja mingil määral ka Eestil on seni olnud idee, et osta L-Korea kraami, aga sealt ei pruugi ka varsti kaupa tulla.
Grippen oleks hea asendus F16 asemel kuna USA tehnikud kontrollivad selle radarit/segajat. Paraku pole see usa tehnikast sõltumatu.

[MatchMaker]

link :: French police arrest extremist activist over Limoges Town Hall fire

[Tanel]

https://arvamus.delfi.ee/artikkel/120618903/andres-kaarmann-me-liigume-eestis-sarnase-tuleviku-suunas-nagu-praegu-prantsusmaal-naeme

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[netcat]

Nad ei luba ju mitte midagi peale selle et suunaks on kindlasti tulevik. Kuna ajareise pole veel leiutatud, siis võibki kindel olla, et minevik nagunii suunaks olla ei saa ju. Väga JOKK lubadus. Ükskõik milliseks see tulevik siis ka ei kujune, on lubadus täidetud, peale selle ei pea selle täitumiseks ise mitte midagi tegema - ideaalne programm.

[elukaz]

Siingi foorumis ka vanade kasutajate juures näha. On "meie" ehk rahvas kes pole eluga rahul ja "nemad" ehk valitsejad kes on kõigis maailma hädades süüdi ja tuleks minema kihutada, isegi "riik" on mingi mõttetu moodustis mille kaitseks välja ei taha astuda, nagu see polekski su kodu mille üle ükskõik mis lipp võib lehvida. Ja see on soodus pinnas kuhu vihkamisseemet külvata.

Rahuaja meelelahutus, cost of living võib kus iganes põhjseks tuua.

Edit: juba jõudis ka kinnitavaid poste siia vahele

[netcat]

Poliitikutel, kes s*tuvad sinna, kus söövad, tasuks vahel natuke mõelda, millega nad väetavad seda pinnast, kuhu "vihkamisseemet külvatakse".

Tõesti ma ei imesta, kui inimesed riigi "näona" näevad poliitikut, kes sülitab sulle näkku ja kutsub sind lolliks, kaitsetahte kaotavad. Omaenda kodu tahab kaitsta igaüks. Miks ei tunne riigi elanik end enam kodus olevat? See on tõsine probleem ja veel tõsisem probleem on, kui võimul olijate lahendus sellele on leida, et valija on loll. Juuresolevalt pildilt on näha, et lollikspeetud põlisvalija asendamine pagulastega samuti ei toimi, sest hiljemalt ühe põlvkonna pärast asuvad nemadki innukalt ja isuga järama kätt, mis neid toidab.

[Betamax]

Inimeste kaitsetahe pole kusagile kadunud. Aga kaitstakse Eestit, mitte neid muidusöödikuid seal Toompeal. Need muidusöödikud on esimesed, kes häda korral vehkat teevad.

[MatchMaker]

link :: South Korea to pull more Ukraine embassy staff after POW dispute

[napoleon]