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netcat
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19.10.2025 16:05:59
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| Saaks vaevast lahti jah. Mõttetu afganistaani laadset asja korrata, tiblameelseid ümber ei keera. |
Et peaks Narva ise ära andma enne kui hilja, mõtled?
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Janis
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| Jah tead, kohe lähen andma
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MatchMaker
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liitunud: 23.06.2007
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19.10.2025 17:56:47
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Tanker belonging to Iranian 'ghost fleet' hit by mystery blast off Yemen's coast
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bydcumzael
https://x.com/vcdgf555/status/1979914758427164791
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“What You Take by Force and Blood Is Yours” — according to Trump
When asked if Putin might agree to end the war without demanding major concessions from Ukraine, Trump didn’t sugarcoat it:
“Well, he’s going to take something. I mean, they fought and he has a lot of property.”
For Trump, war is about winning and holding what you take.
He's frustrated with the U.S. approach.
“We’re the only nation that goes in and wins a war and then leaves.”
In his mind, peace without territorial adjustments is fantasy.
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1979924203345269208 |
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anubis
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liitunud: 08.06.2002
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19.10.2025 19:01:31
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| Jälle ei saa üks mees rahupreemiat.
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MatchMaker
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liitunud: 23.06.2007
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19.10.2025 19:50:40
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link :: Trump urged Zelenskyy to accept Putin’s terms or be ‘destroyed’ by Russia
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Donald Trump urged Volodymyr Zelenskyy to accept Russia’s terms for ending its war in a volatile White House meeting on Friday, warning that Vladimir Putin had said he would “destroy” Ukraine if it did not agree.
The meeting between the US and Ukrainian presidents descended many times into a “shouting match”, with Trump “cursing all the time”, people familiar with the matter said.
They added that the US president tossed aside maps of the frontline in Ukraine, insisted Zelenskyy surrender the entire Donbas region to Putin, and repeatedly echoed talking points the Russian leader had made in their call a day earlier.
Though Ukraine ultimately managed to swing Trump back to endorsing a freeze of the current front lines, the acrimonious meeting appeared to reflect the capricious nature of Trump’s position on the war and his willingness to endorse Putin’s maximalist demands.
The meeting between Trump and Zelenskyy came amid a fresh push by the US president to end Russia’s war following the ceasefire secured between Israel and Hamas.
Zelenskyy and his team went to the White House hoping to persuade Trump to supply them with long-range Tomahawk cruise missiles, but the US president ultimately declined to do so.
The tense meeting echoed a similarly fractious encounter at the White House in February, in which Trump and Vice-President JD Vance lambasted Zelenskyy for what they characterised as a lack of gratitude towards the US.
During Friday’s meeting, Trump appeared to have adopted many of Putin’s talking points verbatim, even when they contradicted his own recent statements about Russia’s weaknesses, said European officials briefed on the meeting.
According to a European official with knowledge of the meeting, Trump told Zelenskyy that the Ukrainian leader needed to cut a deal or face destruction.
The official said that Trump told Zelenskyy he was losing the war, warning: “If [Putin] wants it, he will destroy you.”
At one point in the meeting, the US president threw Ukraine’s maps of the battlefield to one side, the official familiar with the encounter said.
The White House and the Ukrainian president’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Trump told Fox News on Sunday that he was confident about securing an end to the conflict, and added that Putin is “going to take something, he’s won certain property”.
Putin made a new offer to Trump on Thursday under which Ukraine would surrender the parts of the eastern Donbas region under its control in exchange for some small areas of the two southern frontline regions of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.
The Russian proposal marks a small concession from that made during Putin’s last meeting with Trump in Alaska in August, where he said he would agree to freeze the line of contact elsewhere on the frontline if Ukraine surrendered the Donbas.
That meeting also ended acrimoniously after Putin rejected Trump’s push for an immediate ceasefire and digressed at length about medieval Ukrainian history, prompting the US to explore ramped-up support for Kyiv, including by supplying Tomahawk missiles.
But ceding the remainder of the Donbas still under Ukrainian control would be a non-starter for Ukraine, as it would hand Moscow territory it has only partially occupied for more than a decade and failed to seize despite its efforts since Putin ordered the invasion in 2022.
Russian forces have struggled to retain the territory in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia that Putin offered in exchange, and have made virtually no progress on the battlefield there since 2022, the year the war began.
“To give [the Donbas] to Russia without a fight is unacceptable for Ukrainian society, and Putin knows that,” said Oleksandr Merezhko, chair of the Ukrainian parliament’s foreign affairs committee.
He said that Putin might be pushing the contentious idea “with a purpose to cause division within Ukraine and undermine our unity”.
Merezhko added: “It’s not about getting more territory for Russia, it’s about how to destroy us from within.”
Trump’s belligerent repetition of Putin’s rhetoric on Friday dashed hopes among many of Ukraine’s European allies that he could be convinced to increase support to Kyiv.
That hope had risen after Trump in recent weeks expressed frustration and impatience with the Russian president’s refusal to actively engage in bilateral peace negotiations with Zelenskyy.
Three other European officials briefed on the White House discussions confirmed that Trump had spent much of the meeting lecturing Zelenskyy, repeating Putin’s arguments about the conflict and urging him to accept the Russian proposal.
“Zelenskyy was very negative” following the meeting, according to one of the officials, adding that European leaders were “not optimistic but pragmatic with planning next steps”.
In a statement on Sunday, Zelenskyy said “decisive steps are needed from the United States, Europe, the G20 and G7 countries” to end the war. |
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liitunud: 01.04.2009
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19.10.2025 20:45:37
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Eks seda oli ette näha, et Trump vana Kremli käpik tahab, et see piinlik episood, "lõpetan-sõja-24-tunniga", saaks ükskord läbi.
Oli ette näha, et Tomahawk rakettidest tehakse uus poliitiline F-16 hävitajate laadne näitemäng. Et oleks midagi millega Ukrainat narritada ja panna Ukraina USA tahtmise järgi tantsima.
Kuna see ei ole nüüd enam Zelenski esimene rodeo, siis ta ehk oskab selle hullu Trumpi ümber osavamalt käituda.
Ma isiklikult arvan, et Ukrainale on venitamise taktika praegu kasulikum kui Venemaale. Võib-olla olen meie poole propagandast mõjutatud aga tundub, et venemaal läheb see majanduse olukord ja siseriiklikud pinged järgneva poole aastaga päris pingeliseks.
Kuna Ukraina suudab nüüd järjest kaugemale lasta, siis Militaari foorumis jagatakse infot, et Ukraina võtab enne talve Moskva ümbert suuri alajaamasid maha.
https://x.com/Bricktop_NAFO/status/1979698210948915513
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| Ukraine are taking out Electrical stations around Moscow. It won’t be long before Moscow falls into darkness. |
viimati muutis -Koppel- 19.10.2025 20:49:43, muudetud 1 kord |
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anubis
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liitunud: 08.06.2002
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19.10.2025 20:49:24
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| Tibladel on oma sissetulekute allikaid keeruline kaitsta ja ilma rahata lendab see riik laiali.
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SKG
HV Ihaldatuim Poissmees
liitunud: 27.01.2003
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19.10.2025 21:32:07
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Oranž geenius on kergelt mõjutatav, ise mingit ideoloogiat ega moraali ei järgi, peale enesekasu ja -imetluese. Ukraina ja selle rahvas teda ei koti, Trump soovib kiirelt enda jaoks "linnukest kirja saada", vahet pole kuidas.
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Betamax
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liitunud: 29.05.2003
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19.10.2025 21:46:04
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Milline lips? Pane siis pilt kah.
USA lipul on ka sinine, valge ja punane värv kasutusel.
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mikk36
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19.10.2025 21:57:19
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Milline lips? Pane siis pilt kah.
USA lipul on ka sinine, valge ja punane värv kasutusel. |
Väheke jaksu ja saad ehk antud lingi ka avatud.
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Betamax
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19.10.2025 22:12:48
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Milline lips? Pane siis pilt kah.
USA lipul on ka sinine, valge ja punane värv kasutusel. |
Väheke jaksu ja saad ehk antud lingi ka avatud. |
Enne paukumist võiksid ta postitust vaadata.
Aga kena trollimine. Kõik räägivad lipsust, mitte Ukrainast  
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Bssldr
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20.10.2025 01:44:41
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Lips oli jah meelega selline valitud. X-is on neid vabandajaid palju, kes loetlevad üles 10 riiki, mis ka oma lippudel neid värve kasutavad. Aga oluline on see, et lipsu värvide järjekord valge-sinine-punane ühtib vene lipuga. Isegi lipsusõlm oli õige koha peale tehtud, et ei tekiks segadust, mis lipu värvidega tegu on.
USA lipupäeval oli sarnane lugu. 2 vene lippu keset pilti. https://x.com/DeptofWar/status/1933947548965781863 . Disain on muidugi meelega selline, et jääks ruumi "kokkusattumust" vabanduseks tuua.
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20.10.2025 03:35:52
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Kolumbia president süüdistab USA valitsust nende kodaniku mõrvas.
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US government officials have committed a murder and violated our sovereignty in territorial waters
Fisherman Alejandro Carranza had no ties to the drug trade and his daily activity was fishing.
The Colombian boat was adrift and had its distress signal up due to an engine failure.
We await explanations from the US government. |
https://x.com/petrogustavo/status/1979700160608206983
USA on siiani null tõendit toonud, et 6 põhjalastud paadis olid Venetsueela narkokullerid.
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20.10.2025 13:39:12
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| Aga miks ta üle Ukraina ei lenda?
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degrass
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20.10.2025 14:27:32
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| somnambuul kirjutas: |
| Aga miks ta üle Ukraina ei lenda? |
Arvan, et siin peab esmalt küsima, kas ta üldse julgeb üle Musta mere lennata...
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MatchMaker
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20.10.2025 15:00:45
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The Kremlin has rejected Trump’s plan: “Russia’s negotiating position to stop troops at current lines remains unchanged,” Peskov said.
Earlier, both the Kremlin and Russia’s Foreign Ministry claimed that such a halt would contradict the Russian constitution. |
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| I just want to stop the war on the current front, not force Zelensky to give up territories. We never talked about handing over Donbas. Leave everything as it is, — Trump. |
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