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Milline sõitja võiks võita 2025 aasta individuaalse MM tiitli? |
Max Verstappen - Red Bull |
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27% |
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Lando Norris - McLaren |
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36% |
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Lewis Hamilton - Ferrari |
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Charles Leclerc - Ferrari |
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12% |
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Oscar Piastri - McLaren |
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9% |
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George Russell - Mercedes |
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6% |
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Andrea Kimi Antonelli - Mercedes |
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Fernando Alonso - Aston Martin |
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3% |
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Pierre Gasly - Alpine |
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3% |
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Liam Lawson - Red Bull |
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Gabriel Bortoleto - Sauber |
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Carlos Sainz Jr - Williams |
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Alexander Albon - Williams |
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Yuki Tsunoda - Racing Bulls |
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Isack Hadjar - Racing Bulls |
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3% |
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Jack Doohan - Alpine |
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Lance Stroll - Aston Martin |
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Esteban Ocon - Haas |
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Oliver Bearman - Haas |
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Nico Hulkenberg - Sauber |
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bugbrake
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liitunud: 10.12.2006
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13.04.2025 19:33:18
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Norris on täna kõva sõitu teinud, kõige kiuste
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liitunud: 22.08.2007
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13.04.2025 19:33:58
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Norrise päästis SC.
DRS -ga väga palju jamasid.
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Winterwind
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liitunud: 19.05.2002

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13.04.2025 19:40:32
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Russelli mersu laguneb ja hea kui kolmanda kohagi saab.
e: Joppas siiski, Norris ei saanud mööda
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liitunud: 10.12.2006
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13.04.2025 19:41:16
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Üsnagi huvitav sõit oli
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liitunud: 22.08.2007
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13.04.2025 19:51:18
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HAAsidelt suurepärane sõit taas Russell on oma elu vormis hetkel . Max sai Gaslist mööda finshi sirgel Tsunoda esimesed punktid .
softyd pidasid 25 ringi vastu ?
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Tomorrow
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liitunud: 08.02.2006
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13.04.2025 19:51:39
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Sõit bugisem, kui uus Windowsi väljalase esimesel päeval. Nii palju erinevaid tehnilisi jamasid. Kõigepealt hangus pilt hetkeks enne starditulede süttimist.
Siis RB boksitulukesed failisid. Siis Russeli transporder liigutas teda teise ja viimase koha vahet. Seejärel mitmel sõitjal DRS malfunction jne.
Vähemalt sõit oli keskmine. Huvitavam kui Jaapan, aga tulevärk just polnud.
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liitunud: 04.10.2011
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14.04.2025 07:43:56
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Russeli drs oli valel ajal ja kohas lahti.
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liitunud: 08.12.2012
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14.04.2025 08:11:11
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Imelik, et pole näidanud ühtegi kaadrit nendest "üliohtlikest" tükidest ega nende ära koristamisest
VSC oleks ka piisanud aga sõit jällegi grammi võrra huvitavam
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VSC ei oleks seal saanud kasutada. Autod olid raja peal ühtlaste vahedega ja poleks olnud sobivat "auku" kuna rajatöötajad oleksid saanud rajale minna.
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liitunud: 04.10.2011
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14.04.2025 08:31:11
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Huvitav sõit. Sainz, antonelli ja tsunoda olid päris agressiivsed. Ferrari küsitav taktika.
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liitunud: 01.04.2009
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14.04.2025 09:17:19
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Ma olen ka segaduses, et kuidas anda hinnangut sellele nähtud sõidule. Kvalifikatsioon andis loota, et autod paiknevad oma tavapärasest järjestusest erinevalt ja tuleb madistamist.
Mõõdasõite oli. Juppe lendas. Lõpus oli Norrisel huvitav 2-3 koha heitlus.
Ma ei tea, kas lapsed segasid vaatamist ja keskendumisvõimet või jäi ikka midagi puudu, et minus sellist päriselt põneva sõidu hasarti ei tekkinud. Kõik vajalikud hea sõidu elemendid justkui olid olemas.
Tsunoda tundub, et on ikkagi päris asjalik kaaslane Verstappenile, sest näha on, et ega see auto ei ole enam sellisel tasemel, et oleks võimalik lihtsasti võita või isegi poodiumile jõuda. Red-Bull pitstopid läksid ka pekki aga ajavaheslid vaadates, siis Yuki oleks ehk ühe koha võrra kõrgemal lõpetanud aga Verstappen - Hamilton vahe oli lõpus 6..7 sekundit. Seda ei oleks ikka võitnud.
Seda, et Red Bull lõpetab kuuendal ja üheksanadal kohal ei oleks küll oodanud.
Mis selle Russeli DRS probleemiga juhtus. Tundub, et ei saanud siis ikkagi karistada!?
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liitunud: 22.08.2007
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16.04.2025 17:43:07
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2026 tuleb korralik shitshow
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Let's not beat around the bush: everything points, and if no one changes it, that 2026 will be a carbon copy of 2014 , according to those involved. Mercedes, and with it, the client teams : Williams, Alpine, and McLaren, four out of ten will battle among themselves.
The Mercedes project may be more advanced than the rest, but they've encountered a curious circumstance that could be the general trend. Pay attention now:
They believe the electric section will require a lot of energy to recharge, and the energy generated during braking won't be enough. Mercedes has experienced something unexpected and very worrying in their simulations: the car runs out of all its electric energy in the middle of the Monza straight . |
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liitunud: 28.12.2001
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16.04.2025 18:38:08
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Kõlab nagu see kurvis lahtine DRS
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liitunud: 04.10.2011
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16.04.2025 19:03:47
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2026 tuleb korralik shitshow
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Let's not beat around the bush: everything points, and if no one changes it, that 2026 will be a carbon copy of 2014 , according to those involved. Mercedes, and with it, the client teams : Williams, Alpine, and McLaren, four out of ten will battle among themselves.
The Mercedes project may be more advanced than the rest, but they've encountered a curious circumstance that could be the general trend. Pay attention now:
They believe the electric section will require a lot of energy to recharge, and the energy generated during braking won't be enough. Mercedes has experienced something unexpected and very worrying in their simulations: the car runs out of all its electric energy in the middle of the Monza straight . |
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/formulaonefans/permalink/9717949344987997/
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liitunud: 05.02.2007
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16.04.2025 20:12:34
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Kindlasti tekib uue hübriidiga probleeme aga praegune jutt on rohkem klikimagnet ja Elu24 stiilis kõlakad
_________________ Ehitusprojektid ja konstruktiivsed lahendused HV kasutajatele soodsamalt
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liitunud: 22.08.2007
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16.04.2025 20:28:57
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18 Apr
Practice 1: 16:30 - 17:30
Practice 2: 20:00 - 21:00
19 Apr
Practice 3: 16:30 - 17:30
Qualifying: 20:00 - 21:00
20 Apr
Race: 20:00
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liitunud: 19.05.2002

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16.04.2025 20:33:22
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Normid ajad, nv õhtutel pole nagunii midagi kuskilt vaadata.
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liitunud: 22.08.2007
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19.04.2025 07:08:40
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Imeväike kõks yukilt seina vastu ja roolisüsteem puru kohe
Helmut Markost ja Red Bullist:
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re you kidding? Mateshitz and Marko know each other since the 1980s... At the time Marko wanted to help Austrian talents up in to F1.
In '84 there was a young Austrian driver that Marko had discovered and that he was managing. A certain Gerhard Berger.
Berger was driving in German F3 in 1982 and in the European F3 championship in '83 & '84. Marko saw something in him and was desperate to get him to F1. That's why and how he got in touch with Mateschitz then (around '83 or '84).
Because Helmut was looking for Austrian businessmen who were interested in helping Austrian young racing talent to reach F1 in the '80s and that's why he got in touch with Mateschitz. Marko eventually convinced BMW to back Berger and hire him as a BMW junior. BMW was also backing Marc Surer in F1 and Christian Danner (F2 later F1 in those days).
Berger was 3rd overall in German F3 (he drove Alfa's in touring cars before that, just for fun initially but he discovered he had talent) in '82 in a championship that Dane John Nielsen (a driver who should have reached F1) completely dominated.
In '83 he moved to European F3 and was 8th overall behind Pierluigi Martini, John Nielsen Emanuele Pirro, Tommy Byrne, Roberto Ravaglia, Didier Theys and Martin Brundle (who beat Senna in the British championship for Eddie Jordan Racing, Brundle only did the 2 European F3 rounds in the UK, at Silverstone and Donington, but won both).
Of the top of European F3 in '83 8 would reach F1, Nielsen (he did come very close) & Ravaglia didn't (Langes & Fabre were 9th and 10th. Guest drivers Hesnault & Capelli also reached F1)
'84 was the year that Marko got BMW to hire Berger as a junior next to Danner. The Macao F3 GP at the end of '83 no doubt was a decisive factor in that. Gerhard had finished 3rd overall there behind Ayrton Senna (West Surrey) and... Roberto Guerrero (Jordan) who had driven full time in F1 in '82 (Ensign) & '83 (Theodore).
For '84 BMW put the experienced duo Hans Joachim Stuck & Dieter Quester in the nr. 1 Schnitzer and their juniors Gerhard Berger & Roberto Ravaglia in the nr. 2 wth Danner (who also did a full F2 campaign) and Berger alternating in the nr 2 next to Ravaglia when Danner did F2 or Berger F3.
Berger had a very strong F3 campaign in '84, finishing 3rd overall behind Ivan Capelli & Johnny Dumfries, with wins in Zeltweg & Monza.
That same year Marko convinced BMW to persuade ATS to enter a 2nd car in the Austrian GP for Berger. During the touring car weekend at Spa (the 24h race...) Berger drove from Spa up and down to Zandvoort where several F1 teams were testing to test his first F1 car. In Austria he made his debut and he got to do Zandvoort & Monza as well and was 6th in Holland. At the end of the year he also replaced ATS lead driver in his car when Winkelhock was called up by Brabham to replace Teo Fabi since Brabham ran the Fabi brothers in '84 and both missed the final race because their father died.
For '85 BMW put Berger in the Arrows next to Boutsen, that almost didn't happen because Berger had a life threatening car accident in the Austrian mountains in in december '85. He would continue touring cars also in '85 and move to another team with BMW engines in '85...Benetton (who had taken over Toleman). After winning the Mexican GP Ferrari hired him for '87.
Why am I telling all of this about Berger? Because Helmut Marko had managed his carreer since '82. And during this '82-'84 period Marko got to know Mateschtiz to convince him to help Berger financially. I have no idea if Mateschitz had sponsored / helped Berger already in F3 but what is certain is that Marko and Mateschitz became friends already in those days and because of Marko (that's a fact) Mateschitz got biten by the autosport virus and became very passionate about it.
Marko in the meantime considered his task with Berger (bringing him to F1) done and in '87 his eye fell on a young Karl Wendlinger who had shown talent in karting in '85-'86 and did F. Ford in '87. Marko set up an F3 team with sponsoring from Kraft in '88 to run Wendlinger in F3.
in '89 three young drivers dominated German F3 and all three would be picked up by Mercedes during that year since Mercedes was starting up a Junior team for their partnership with Sauber in World Endurance Sports Cars (Group C).
Those 3 drivers were Karl Wendlinger, Heinz-Harald Frentzen and Michael Schumacher who also finished the German F3 in '89 in that order but there was nothing between them. Helmut Marko also entered a car in DTM for Wendlinger in '89 alongside his F3 campaign..
He had first managed to get BMW to hire and back his protégé Gerhard Berger and later managed the same for Wendlnger by getting him picked up by Mercedes and both BMW and Mercedes financed Berger & Wendlinger to F1.
In 1990 Marko stepped up to F3000 with his team to enter a car for his protégé Karl Wendlinger who now also was a Mercedes junior. It was a difficult year in days when F3000 was mega competitive ('89 possibly F3000s best year ever talent wise) but Wendlinger did score a podium in his 2nd F3000 year + in 1990 Wendlinger combined a part time F3000 campaign with part time World Endurance for Sauber Mercedes and he won a round there convincing Mercedes to buy the Leyton House March seat for the final 2 F1 races of 1990 and for 1991.
Marko had now brought 2 Austrians to F1 (Berger & Wendlinger) and for 1992 he took another Austrian under his wings, Oliver Tichy, and paired him with German top talent Jörg Müller who would win the F3000 title that year with Tichy a dissapointing 10th overall.
The next year Marko hired Juan-Pablo Montoya (Australian Craig Lowdnes in the 2nd car had a poor year) who nearly won the title for him.
In the meantime Mateschitz was already sponsoring Sauber in F1 since 1995 with his Red Bull brand. By '99 Mateschitz desperately wanted to bring a new Brazilian driver to F1 because he had plans for his Red Bull drinks in the Brazilian market and what better way than to bring a new Brazilian driver to F1?
So Mateschitz teamed up with Marko in F3000 for 1999 with Marko's team rebadged as the 'Red Bull Junior Team' from '99. And they ran two Brazilians: Enrique Bernoldi and Riccardo Mauricio.
Mateschitz strongly believed in Enrique Bernoldi and the Brazlian had a very strong cv so far with a Europea, F. Renault title in '96 (he won 9 out of 11 races), a 3rd in Macao GP F3 in '97 + in '98 a 3rd again in Macao + a 2nd in the F3 Masters at Zandvoort + 2nd overall in British F3.
But in F3000 in '91 the Marko - Red Bull Junior team had a very tough year with only a 6th for Mauricio in Spa and a 5th for Bernoldi at Hockenheim. '92 was again pretty bad but Mauricio did manage a podium in Budapest and Bernoldi a pole in Barcelona.
Bernoldi was also a Sauber F1 test driver in F1 during '99 & 2000 and Mateschitz now badly wanted his Brazilian Bernoldi in F1 but Red Bull didn't consider Bernoldi's underwhelming F3000 record enough to justify a seat so Mateschitz eventually had to turn to Arrows to buy a seat for Bernoldi there.
in 2001 & 2002 Riccardo Mauricio stayed with the Red Bull Jr Marko team now paired with Austrian Patrick Friesacher, who was the next Austrian Marko wanted to bring to F1 andthat worked since Friesacher go to do a year at Minardi eventually.
In 2003 supertalent Vitantonio Liuzzi partnered Friesacher at Red Bull Junior - Marko in F3000.
In 2004 Marko and Mateschitz stopped with F3000 because their new plan was to enter F1 instead of just sponsoring a team. They were still sponsoring Sauber in F1 in 2004, with Credit Suisse replacing Petronas as the other Sauber lead sponsor but Sauber didn't want to sell their F1 team to Red Bull so Marko was prawling around the F1 paddock if anyone was willing to selll their team to Red Bull.
At that time Red Bull backed mega hyped talent Vitantonio Liuzzi had moved to Arden and completely dominated F3000 that year. Arden was then run by Christian Horner who had previously raced for that team founded by his father and Christian had realized he lacked the talent to ever reach F1 and became the manager of his fathers F3000 team Arden.
During that same year it beame clear that Jaguar was going to leave F1 so Red Bull quickly became interested to buy the Jaguar F1 team (originally this was te Stewart F1 team backed by Ford). Ecclestone decided to help Red Bull but Marko said they still didn't have someone to become the team manager if they managed to buy the Jaguar team.
Ecclestone then suggested: 'there is a very young talented team boss in F3000 now and he happens to dominate that championship now with your Red Bull backed driver Liuzzi: Christian Horner. That's how Ecclestone tipped Marko & Mateshitz that Horner would be a good F1 team boss for them: young and succesfull in F3000 as team boss. Since they already knew Horner because Liuzzi drove for him that was quickly settled.
So when Bernie eventually arranged an assistant of him to fix a date for Red Bull to start to negotiate the purchase of the Jaguar F1 team from Ford...Christian Horner was already send to that meeting alongside Marko to negotiate. A deal was quickly found with Ford and Red Bull purchased the team from Ford. Horner, just hired by Mateschitz & Marko to become Team Boss, became the third founder after Mateschitz and Marko of the Red Bull F1 team for 2005.
So... a very long story to show how long Marko and Mateschitz go back (to the early '80s when Marko was looking for Austrian business men to sponsor his protégé Gerhard Berger move from F3 to F1 and Mateschitz sposored Marko's F3000 team from 1999 transforming the name to Red Bull Junior Team).
Without Marko, who was a highly talented sportscar & F1 diver during 1970-1972 as well. His promissing carreer cut short during the French F1 GP when a Lotus threw up a stone in the face of Marko in his BRM causing a very serious eye injury ending his racing carreer. Marko then opened a hotel in Austria but missed the racing world and in the '80s he dreamed of bringing an Austrian to F1 (there already was one with Lauda off course) and that's when he discovered a very young Gerhard Berger and started to manage him and became friends with Friedrich Mateschitz.
Without Helmut Marko Red Bull Racing would not exist today. It's via Marko that Mateschitz got interested and very passionate about F1. It's also Marko that started up the F1 team for him. Marko was co founder alongside Mateschitz when they founded the Red Bull F1 Racing Team company that was going to take over Jaguar and when negotiations started Horner was added as the third founder.
So has Marko always been Red Bull? Read the history of Marko and Mateschitz above. Marko IS Red Bull. He founded that team but since he was already quite old then to become it's Team Manager they hired Christian Horner for that role and Christian also invested in it becoming the third founder.
The media always saw Horner from the beginning as super ambitious and when Mateschitz Senior died Horner got in the fight for control of the F1 team whilst Marko was in the other camp since he defended Dietrich Mateschitz son and was of the opinion that the son should take over control / ownership of the Red Bull F1 team. After all Marko knew Dietrich Mateschitz since the '80s and because of their friendship Mateschitz became passionate about F1 and started to see that is the ideal marketing tool for Red Bull.
Verstappen chose the side of Marko last year and even threatened he would leave the team if Horner didn't stop his feud with Marko over who would control the team ownership.
So Marko = Red Bull. Without him Red Bull would never have entered F1.
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liitunud: 22.03.2004
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19.04.2025 20:22:32
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Lance Stroll - most eliminated driver in Q1 history.
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Winterwind
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19.04.2025 20:26:24
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Aston nii halb, et näis kaua pisitroll seal viimaste kohtade peale tiksuda viitsib. Mingit huvi asja vastu polnud tal juba normi autoga.
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bugbrake
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liitunud: 10.12.2006
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19.04.2025 20:55:07
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Äärekivi pealt tõmbas ära. Need äärekivid seal suht salakavalad, Q1 haukas Vestappen liiga julgelt aga temal läks õnneks.
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liitunud: 22.08.2007
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19.04.2025 21:12:00
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Hea kvali oli, Max vs Russell vs Piastri.
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liitunud: 21.08.2005
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19.04.2025 21:12:38
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Tänane kvali oli jah põnevam kui kogu eelmine sõit.
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liitunud: 19.05.2002

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19.04.2025 21:14:43
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Ver
Pia
Rus
Lec
Ant
Sai
Ham
Tsu
Gas
Nor
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