[Condamed]

Ma ei tea ausalt aksiatest ega börsist midagi, aga kas see ongi normaalne, et kui "big boy" sedasi üle hakkab saama, keeratakse kõik lukku ja hakatakse a'la reegleid ümber endale sobivaks kirjutama?
See on küll päris naljakas, kuidas enda 1000 dollarise robinhoodi kasutajaga lihtsurelikke kartelliks kutsutakse.

[salatoimik]

eks näis jah kuhu see välja jõuab. Robinhood takistab nüüd ostmist Turumajandus või asi. Nii kui suurel poisil hakkab kehvasti minema siis tuleb ju kuidagi abi osutada

[KillFrenzy]

Keegi võtab hetkel raha välja, ilusti alla tulnud hind.

[Viilutaja]

Vaatasin ka, et korralik suur punane dildo.

[hemmar]

Korralik kino.

[fgth]

Spekuleerimise juttudeks võiks eraldi teema olla

[sukelduja]

[Magic]

Puhas investeerimine
Tänane graafik on ikka kaupleja unistus

[bugbrake]

Kellel asi veel arusaamatu on ja tahab ka ree peale saada siis siin pikemalt juttu ilma maksumüürita:
https://www.err.ee/1608089482/gamestopi-aktsiad-ules-viinud-vaikeinvestorid-loid-wall-streeti-tema-enda-taktikaga

[netcat]

Mul on tunne, et heaga see ei lõpe. Lihtsalt on selline tunne.

[Magic]

Sa mõtled seda, et see pole nii mustvalge?

[Viilutaja]

Kustkohast te GME aktsiat olete ostnud? Proovisin LHV'st, seal valikus täitsa olemas ja kui läksin kinnitama, siis ütles et antud väärtaperite ostmine on piiratud vms.

[Look Right]

Praegu ongi suuresti piiratud GME ostmine

[raxz]

[Viilutaja]

Sain LHV vanemmaaklerilt vastuse:

Vastuseks Teie küsimusele, siis meile teadaolevalt on LHV välismaakleri juhatus otsustanud peatada GME ostuorderite vahendamise. Võimalik, et sarnaseid piiranguid tuleb veel. Maakler pakub kauplemiseks kindlat valikut instrumente ning seda valikut saab maakler vastavalt oma hinnangutele muuta. Välismaakleril ei ole kohustust pakkuda kauplemiseks kõiki väärtpabereid ning kahjuks ei ole LHV-l võimalik seda nimekirja neile ette kirjutada.

Olemasolevaid positsioone saab sulgeda.


Kirjutasin vastu, ja avaldasin pahameelt. Seni LHV on väga mõistlik olnud just väike investorite vaatest. Saan aru, et pole otseselt nende dikteerida, vaid nende välispartneri, kuid siit võiks LHV ka mingid enda järeldused teha.
Kohe kui suured tunnevad, et neid kotitakse siis tõmmatakse kõik kohad kinni. Ning seda ilma ametlike kohtu otusteta, lihtsalt ühepoolselt.

[oliver.]

[Chaza!]

[Viilutaja]

LHV ütles, et nemad ei peatanud vaid nende välispartner, ning seda otsust ei saa nemad mõjutada

Aga jah, kui väikeinvestorid kaotavad siis justkui nii on ja jääb, pole midagi teha...
Kui suured hakkavad kaotama, siis tehakse ühepoolseid otsuseid ning seda ilma igasugu õigussüsteemita. Lihtsalt peatatakse ühepoolselt.

[JRISETH]

[Viilutaja]

LHV foorumis on selline jutt kogu asja kohta.
https://fp.lhv.ee/forum/invest/133177


Step 0: Citadel pays Robinhood for order flow. Citadel gets to see RH's orders a few milliseconds before they're filled. Citadel may choose to front-run some of those trades.

Step 1: RH's customers and WallStreetBets start manipulating $GME. This is happening in the open.

Officially, they're manipulating $GME (and $BB and $KOSS) because these low-value stocks are being very heavily shorted, and if something moves the value of the stock up (like, tens of thousands of retail investors acting in near unison), those short-sellers may be forced to sell

...to cover their borrowed shares. If most shares are held by retail investors who won't sell, the price will skyrocket (supply/demand) until someone does. The bear hedge funds and such will still have to buy to cover, which may cause a bit of a liquidity crisis for the funds.

The concept of "Screw the hedge fund vampires who exist only to destroy companies like Gamestop" is a big part of /r/WallStreetBets's messaging. It's a compelling message, and a decent secondary reason for this.

The primary reason to manipulate markets remains profit, though.

Step 2: HFTs buy shares ahead of Robinhood users.

Remember Citadel, the firm who can front-run robinhood trades, and got to see all of that RH data a little early because they paid for flow? Yeah. When do you think they started buying $GME in front of RH traders on momentum?

Because the volume of shares exchanged suggests that the HFT folks were all over this, all the way to $150. The message on WSB might be "lots of little guys screwing big Wall Street", but the truth is that the HFT robots were screwing everyone, while paying RobinHood a kickback.

Step 3: A hedge fund becomes insolvent. Today it was Melvin Capital Management. It very likely won't be the last.

Melvin immediately sells off a portion of itself, because it needs the influx of cash or it will vanish in a poof of smoke, vaporizing ~$15 Billion in the process.

Step 4: Who's the lead investor, picking up part of a usually successful fund at fire-sale prices?

Right. Citadel, probably with some of the cash they made by repeatedly profiting in the milliseconds before filling the trades that collapsed this fund.
WSJ News Exclusive | Citadel, Point72 to Invest $2.75 Billion Into Melvin Capital Management
Hedge fund Melvin Capital has been hit hard by a series of short bets to start the year, down nearly 30% for 2021 through Friday, people familiar with the firm said.

Step 5: Citadel still has access to RH order flows, is still allowed to front-run them and/or pocket the spread, and can use that and other information to determine the next over-leveraged fund that's going to get squeezed.

They might even be able to accelerate the squeeze.

So, the next time you discount the impact of "4chan with a bloomberg terminal", remember that they are not the only ones who stand to benefit from intentionally screwing exposed short-sellers.

The professionals are all too happy to amplify the efforts of the amateurs for profit.

Because if amateurs manipulate the market, uh, truthfully, then nobody loses their license.

"I (retail investor) bought because I hate Citron & hedge funds, and we're going to screw them for profit. Join us, but do your own due diligence. YOLO!" might just be legal. IANAL.

If a licensed broker/dealer did this, they'd lose their license, and probably go to jail. Martha Stewart did time for less.

But Citadel, by paying for order flow and sitting in the middle, gets to legally ride-along, printing money the whole way.

So, when you ask yourself, "who pays for no-commission trades, and why?" or "what's the harm of RobinHood's business model?", take a look at what happens behind the scenes, in the milliseconds after you press buy, but before you own those shares.

It's vampires all the way down.


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TRON krüpta looja Justin Sun tweetis, et ostab turu avaneded 1mln eest GME'd.
Saab näha, mis siis saab kui aasia turud avanevad.

https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1354690631948324868

[lalalalala]

LHV kasutab Interactive Brokers teenust ning IB peatas GME ostu. Mitte LHV.
Samuti RobinHood ja osad teised on peatanud GME ostu.

Küsimus ka:
Millist platformi siin kasutatakse? IB on kallis (10usd/kuu) mis paari k puhul on väga suur % juba haldustasuna. etoro kohta oli väga palju "borderline scam" arvamusi. 212trading või Revolut siis? Kumba rohkem kasutate, arvamused, või midagi muud?
Daytradingut ei teeks aga tahaks süümekateta vahel midagi osta väiksema summa eest. Revoluti 3 tasuta tehingut / kuus on vist okei.

[lexo]

[Invention]

IB's lähevad ka kõik tehingutasud selle 10USD sisse. Ehk kui sa ostad näiteks 10 US aktsiat (0.35 senti x 10 ehk 3.5USD), siis seda ei lisata sellele 10USD'le. Nii kaua, kuni tehingute komisjonitasud ei ületa seda 10USD'd.

[KillFrenzy]

https://isthesqueezesquoze.com/

leht kontrollimaks kas melvin on juba pankrotis või mitte

[Viilutaja]

GME premarket on juba 73% kõrgemal kui eilne sulgemishind
AMC'l ka korralik tõus ees.