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Lõuapoolik
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liitunud: 04.04.2003
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02.07.2014 16:48:02
Infosõda jätkub: Venemaa sunnib välismaiseid ettevõtteid talletama oma andmeid Venemaal |
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Infosõda jätkub, Venemaal riigiduumas hiljuti vastuvõetud seadusega sunnitakse kõiki välismaiseid ettevõtteid, k.a Facebook ja Google, talletama kõiki oma andmeid Venemaa territoorumitele asuvatesse serveritesse. Firmasid, kes ei suuda seatud tähtajaks andmekeskusi luua ja/või kes ei soovi oma andmeid Venemaa territooriumil talletada, ootab ees tegevuse sulgemine ja blokeerimine.
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Russians Get Closer to Forcing Foreign Internet Companies to Store Locals' Data in the Country
A massive wave of blocked sites is on its way in Russia, as the government is moving one step closer to banning all online services that don’t store content within its borders.
This isn’t exactly a surprise considering that there have already been warnings about Russia taking steps in this particular direction, especially following the NSA revelations, which they use as an excuse to copy off China’s book of rules.
The first bill requiring that personal data of Russians be stored inside the country passed the Russian State Duma yesterday. If it manages to get all the stamps of approval, all non-Russian companies will be forced to find a way to store local data in the country.
This means that Facebook, Google, Yahoo and any other service, including apps, that doesn’t come from Mother Russia, but is used by locals, will need to put physical servers inside the country.
What’s more, all these companies wouldn’t even be allowed to send data outside the country unless they can guarantee for the data stored in Russia. The bill states that when personal data is collected, the operator is required to provide a guarantee that the collection, storage, updating and retrieval of personal data on citizens of the Russian Federation is held in data centers on the territory.
Unless companies comply, access to these services will be restricted. The new law is said to take effect in September 2016 if it passes all political hurdles, which means that all these companies would have plenty of time to build data centers within the country.
The changes would not only represent a big inconvenience to tech companies around the world, but there would also be huge costs.
While this isn’t the first time the idea of storing a country’s data locally has been thrown around, it has, in the past, been deemed unrealistic because of the huge costs of implementing it.
Most of these conversations have surged since the NSA scandal broke out last year and Edward Snowden shared tons of top-secret documents with the media. Most importantly, they took place as the world discussed about the intelligence agency spying on everyone in any country around the world.
Russians peg national security as one of the reasons for desiring to close off Internet access to some of the biggest companies in the world unless they comply with the new rules, but in recent months, the country’s government has given signs of moving more towards controlling Internet access as a whole rather than just to foreign sites. |
Allikas: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Russians-Get-Closer-to-Forcing-Foreign-Internet-Companies-to-Store-Locals-Data-in-the-Country-449218.shtml
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korsten
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liitunud: 07.10.2005
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03.07.2014 14:05:48
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USA ju peedistab ka suurfirmasid. Vast mitte talletamisasukohaga küll aga admete kättesaadavusega teatud ametkondade tarbeks.
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liitunud: 19.05.2003
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03.07.2014 15:37:02
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Väga huvitav oleks teada saada, kas kõik need asjad kokku hakkavad kohalike seas meelehärmi tekitama või peavad sellist tüüpi käitumist õigeks.
Meelehärm - rahutused, millega kaasneb v-o muutus
Õigeks - järgmine Põhja Korea?
Õigeks - ärikeskkond kohaneb uute nõudmistega
Pinnapealne analüüs midagi head ei tõota.
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mahno
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liitunud: 25.07.2007
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03.07.2014 17:08:52
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Putin on hetkel erakordselt populaarne massides. Järelikult - populaarsus tuleb ära kasutada potentsiaalselt ebapopulaarsete otsuste läbi surumiseks.
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liitunud: 01.10.2001
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03.07.2014 17:16:28
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Arvestades veel seda, et vähemalt kolmandikul venelastest on internetis toimuvast täiesti pohhui, kuna nad pole arvutit või interneti kunagi kasutanudki.
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Lõuapoolik
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liitunud: 04.04.2003
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23.07.2014 12:23:46
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Paistab, et teema saabki juba järje:
Vladimir Putin Signs Law Forcing Internet Companies to Store Russian Data Locally
The Russian president has just signed a law that will make things extremely difficult for all foreign companies that hope to reach users in the country.
Putin has validated a law that requires Internet companies to store personal data of Russian users within the country’s borders. This means that all companies that don’t even have offices in Russia, need to store user data into local data centers, ZDNet reports.
Despite this being veiled as an effort to keep people’s data safe inside Russia and away from the watchful eye of the NSA and the GCHQ and any other foreign intelligence service, there’s more to the decision.
The most important part is that using Russian data centers makes companies subject to Russian laws on government access to information. Basically, the government gave itself the right to get whatever data it wants from these companies.
Even so, lawmakers continue to claim that it’s all about minimizing the risk of Russian citizens’ data being hacked and stolen by criminals, as if keeping things locked inside the country will automatically fend off those with ill intent.
If they managed to refuse this type of access before, now the entire opposition has been crushed and the companies will have to comply or risk being blocked in the country entirely.
The Russian Association of Electronic Communications, which is essentially a group that lobbies in the name of Internet companies, believes that the law will make it impossible for many global Internet services to operate.
Furthermore, the two-year deadline included in the law to have companies comply with the new regulations isn’t nearly enough. While some smaller companies would likely just try to find some data center to store the data, companies such as Facebook, Google, and many others would need to build data centers.
The process is obviously a lengthy one since companies need to find a location, to create a project, to build the center, bring in the necessary equipment, test it out and so on.
The new law is part of a larger effort in Russia to control the Internet through various measures and, perhaps more importantly, to compel foreign companies to abide by Russian laws and requests of data without question.
The idea of having big companies store data within a country’s borders isn’t exactly new since in the past year the notion has come up more than once, mostly following the NSA scandal and the international implications of the mass surveillance effort.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vladimir-Putin-Signs-Law-Forcing-Internet-Companies-to-Store-Russian-Data-Locally-451752.shtml
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liitunud: 22.01.2004
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30.07.2014 22:17:38
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Ehk peaks koik need firmad asjaga mitte leppima ja laskma Venemaal end ulejaanud maailmast ara loigata...
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Waldof
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liitunud: 15.07.2006
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24.09.2015 09:58:11
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Kui tegemist väike firmaga siis selle jaoks on see väga väga suur kulutus.
Hetkel juba selle pärast 3 koosolekul viibind, et kui palju läheb maksma see jama ja kuidas tehnoloogiliselt teostada.
Kordagi isegi pole arutusel olnud, et ei tee seda, kuna läbi venemaa liiguvad suured rahad.
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liitunud: 29.10.2004
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24.09.2015 10:29:02
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1. Firma peab Venemaal vene klientide teenindamiseks päris suure mahuga investeeringu tegema.
2. Kas firmal tekib kiusatus ka teiste lähiriikide klientide andmeid seal Venemaa lokatsioonis hoida, et kulusid optimeerida?
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