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villu70
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23.11.2014 17:49:04
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Plätu, talitse ennast.
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Mart352
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23.11.2014 17:52:05
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Plätu, talitse ennast. |
Sama võiks ka siin teistele kirjutada aga pole mõtet. HV foorum ju
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23.11.2014 17:57:33
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4 kummitust seisab poodiumil
EDIT: sõitjad mõnusad päkapikud
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23.11.2014 17:58:18
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vaatasin ka et see Williamsi vend seal paras koljat
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liitunud: 02.02.2012
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23.11.2014 18:01:51
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vaatasin ka et see Williamsi vend seal paras koljat |
Mõtled Toto Wolffi? See on ju Mersu tüüp
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-Kaivo-
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liitunud: 22.08.2007
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23.11.2014 18:06:10
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Elu sõidu tegi taas Ricciardo. Pitist 4 -dale kohale Red Bulliga.
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ricom2ger
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23.11.2014 18:10:27
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kimi kirjutas: |
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vaatasin ka et see Williamsi vend seal paras koljat |
Mõtled Toto Wolffi? See on ju Mersu tüüp |
exWilliamsi vend
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Marec
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23.11.2014 19:46:43
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Rinaldo
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liitunud: 24.08.2006
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23.11.2014 19:50:41
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amazing hooaeg, amazing champion!
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WäntWõll
make.believe
liitunud: 18.01.2005
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23.11.2014 20:44:31
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Amazing, et lõpuks läbi sai
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Rinaldo
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23.11.2014 20:45:10
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WäntWõll kirjutas: |
Amazing, et lõpuks läbi sai |
nuh, mis ei sobinud?
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Look Right
Anna vin
liitunud: 05.02.2007
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23.11.2014 21:25:48
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Hamilton oli suurema osa hooajast siiski tagaajaja rollis 5 järjestikust võitu upitasid ta alles ettepoole
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liitunud: 08.08.2006
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23.11.2014 22:23:26
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Ma küll ei ütleks, et hooaeg igav oli. Heaküll jah, võitja oli suht koht alati teada kuid taga pool oli alati korralikku madinat
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bugbrake
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liitunud: 10.12.2006
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23.11.2014 23:40:13
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Oli hea hooaeg, jäin rahule nii meeskondliku tulemusega kui individuaalselt -
_________________ Alati teadke, et kuulujutte mõtlevad välja vihkajad, levitavad lollid, aga usuvad idioodid. |
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kimi
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liitunud: 02.02.2012
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24.11.2014 00:09:14
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Lewise in lap ringil kuvas meeskond talle rooli ekraanile sellise pildi.
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Kreisi kasutaja
liitunud: 01.04.2009
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24.11.2014 00:16:50
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Igav. Tiitel ei olnud peale esimest kurvi enam sisuliselt ohus.
Rosberg oli hetkel underdog ja ei ole põnev kui underdog kaotab ja stsenaarium läheb nii nagu on kõige tõenäolisem.
Lisaks saab underdog veel vigastada ka.
No fighting no nothing.
Ma ei saanud üldse aru, mida see Lewise pere seal pit-is närvitses viimasel ringil. Justkui oleks mingi võimalus olnud tiitlist ilma jääda !?
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liitunud: 20.04.2005
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24.11.2014 00:21:54
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Järgmine aasta siis vast vähemalt alguses jälle normaalne läbisaamine
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Magic
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liitunud: 28.12.2001
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24.11.2014 08:10:34
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Alguses kindlasti... samas ilmselt ka järgmisel aastal mersul rahulik, nii et sõidavad ikka omavahel võidu.
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mugavuspagulane
liitunud: 30.11.2003
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24.11.2014 18:14:11
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nostalgiaks
Spoiler
Abu Dhabi GP - Preview
2014-11-23 00:00:00 (This report was written at 2014-11-20 14:57:38)
The final instalment of Formula 1 2014 comes from the shinny Yas Marina circuit in Abu Dhabi. In amongst the smoking ruin that is F1 we will have a race that decides who will be crowned World Champion, Hamilton or Rosberg?
Mercedes have dominated F1 this year having spent more time and money developing the new power units and their two drivers have utterly dominated the season, winning fifteen of the eighteen races so far and all but one pole position. I think we can safely say that one of them will win the race (and the title) come Sunday, but which one?
Rosberg had a good weekend in Brazil two weeks ago having been fastest in all three practice sessions, qualifying on pole position and winning the race. His clean sweep was only spoiled by Hamilton setting the fastest lap, and there lies the problem for Rosberg. He has not got the race pace of Hamilton and but for a spin in Brazil it was going to be Hamilton’s sixth win in a row. Rosberg may have won the qualifying championship with ten poles but he has only won five races and three from pole.
Hamilton can still win the title by finishing second to Rosberg but that is not in his nature and I strongly suspect that Hamilton will try and win the title in style by winning the race. He will be aided in this by the very nature of the circuit. Yas Marina is a modern Tilke faux street circuit, albeit one with generous run off area’s, and has plenty of sub 100kph corners, only Monaco and Singapore have more. Hamilton excels on theses ‘right angle’ types of corner, breaking a little later than the rest and carrying more speed through.
He was beaten by Rosberg in Monaco but we have to remember the circumstance. Rosberg interfered with Hamilton’s final qualifying run, allowed the German to get pole and at Monaco that is 95% of the job done. Hamilton won in Singapore, he was pushed very close in qualifying, getting that by just 0.007 seconds, but the race was easy after Rosberg’s car developed a problem, putting him to the back of the pack and retiring shortly afterwards.
That has been a bit of a recurring theme in the second half of the season, Rosberg putting it to Hamilton in qualifying but rather handing the races to Hamilton and if he doesn’t make a mistake it doesn’t matter, Hamilton is just quicker over a race distance and that is hard to fight in the same car.
Rosberg will take some comfort that he beat Hamilton here last year and finished on the podium but he was helped by Hamilton suffering a suspension failure in Q3 while on course to out qualifying his team mate but in the race it was Rosberg who put in the better drive. That aside, Yas Marina has always been a track where Hamilton has shone. He has two pole positions from five, a win and a second place, not earth shattering but he has not enjoyed much luck with a brake problem forcing a his retirement from the lead in 2009 and again in 2012 he was forced to retire from the lead with a fuel pressure problem.
Clearly Hamilton is quick around this track but it is also a bit of a jinx. He is not alone and of the five races only Vettel has won from pole position, that on a track were overtaking is not easy and grid position very important. Perhaps this pattern of events could repeat themselves and Hamilton will be forced to retire once again? This year’s cars are not as reliable as in previous seasons but Hamilton has only had three retirements for the season so far and none in the last six. The track itself is not a car breaker and last season there was just one retirement so he will need a big slice of bad luck if he is to retire again.
Hamilton looks a very solid favourite to win this race and very possibly to dominate it. He is a track specialist, is in the best car and it is the last race of the season so he doesn’t have to hold back and ‘look after the car for the next race’. Hamilton has only scored a hat trick (pole, win, fastest lap) on three occasions this season which is not great given the cars superiority but some of this must be down to need to look after these new engines. One of the tracks where he did do it was Singapore and the layout of the two tracks is similar especially with so many right angle corners which seem to suit Hamilton so much. Rather than just back Hamilton to win the race at odds on perhaps there is more mileage in backing him to dominate the weekend, to win the title the proper way and to nail the hat trick.
4 points Hamilton to get a ‘hat trick’ @ 11/4 with Ladbrokes, Paddy Power - lost 4 points
It was clear from the very first race of the season that 2014 was going to be a walk in the park for Mercedes and the rest were just racing to see who could be best of the rest. For the first few races we saw Magnussen, Vettel, Perez and Alonso taking the ‘B.O.T.R’ title but from the 5th race (Spain) it has just been a straight battle between Williams and Red Bull. The Red Bull has to give up a lot of power to the Mercedes powered Williams and in general on the faster circuits it was a Williams, on the slower circuits a Red Bull. Abu Dhabi does have two long straights but it also has a lot of slow corners and the average speed is at the lower end of the scale which should allow Red Bull to show its strengths. Ricciardo has been B.O.T.R. six times to Vettel’s three but there is no doubt that Vettel has improved his performances and gotten used to these new breed of F1 cars in the most recent races and they are 3-3 in the last six races. He has a very good record in Abu Dhabi which is no surprise given how good a car he has had for the five races to date.
However three wins and two pole positions suggests Vettel will be in a positive frame of mind coming back to Abu Dhabi and I am sure both he and the team would love to finish his Red Bull career with a podium finish. He has only achieved that three times this season and makes no appeal at odds of 4/1. He looks much better value in the ‘without Mercedes’ market at 6/1, especially with e/w terms for the first three places. He won this market in Singapore which hopefully is a decent guide for this race.
2 points e/w Vettel ‘without Mercedes’ @ 6/1 with Paddy Power (11/2 Hills, Ladbrokes) - lost 4 points
For reasons best known to Bernie Eccelstone this race carries double points and there is still a lot to play for. Sauber can still beat the (possibly) returning Marussia team and Lotus could catch Toro Rosso for 7th place with just 20 points separating them. It is hard to see Sauber upping their game but in recent races there have been some signs of life with Sutil making Q3 in the US GP and Gutierrez just missing out on Q3 in Brazil (11th). Both drivers appear to have been dropped for next year so I can’t imagine the atmosphere in the garage is that great but at least the drivers need to catch somebody’s eye with a strong performance if they are to have a drive next year.
At least Lotus have scored points this season, as recently as the US GP when Maldonado finished 9th. The Venezuelan is Formula 1’s very own pantomime villain but he is at times a decent driver and he is at his best on street circuits. Abu Dhabi is certainly no Monaco or Singapore but there are some street like sections which may bring the best out in the beast. He was 5th here in 2012 and just missed out in a poor Williams last season when finishing 11th.
2 points Maldonado to finish in the points @ 6/1 with Ladbrokes and Sportingbet - lost 2 points
Year End total + 59.04 points. A bumpy season at times but at least F1 betting is profitable once more. Lets hope that the bellends that run it don't start pissing about with 'showbiz tyres' again. Hopefully I can write a little season review in the next few days, but for now I shall head to the pub. Hope you enjoyed the season and made some money along the way.
Abu Dhabi - Race Day Update
2014-11-23 00:00:00 (This report was written at 2014-11-23 12:14:04)
It was not a good day at the office yesterday. Hamilton fluffed his lines and lost out to Rosberg in qualifying again and the Red Bulls of Vettel and Ricciardo were caught cheating and will now start from the back of the grid.
The fact that Rosberg starts from pole and Hamilton from second could set the race up to be a dull affair. Hamilton only needs to finish second to win the championship so he can just sit in behind his team mate and cruise to the title. Rosberg can only do one thing to increase his chances of the title and it might turn the race into a thriller. Winning is not enough for Rosberg, he needs Hamilton to finish worse than second place. Of course there could be an incident that takes Hamilton out but Rosberg is unlikely to cause a deliberate collision as he would be just as liable to damage as Hamilton. What he can try and do is to back Hamilton into the chasing Williams of Bottas and Massa. That is not without its own risks but it makes more sense to try and help Williams get a car into second place.
The problem is that Hamilton and his Mercedes are just too fast for Williams and even if Hamilton was shuffled down to 3rd or 4th, keeping him there until the end of the race would be very difficult. The title is still very much in Hamilton’s hands and when you consider the fact that only one pole position driver has won the Abu Dhabi GP in five starts; it looks very good for him. He is quicker over a race distance and has dominated his team mate in recent races. If this were just an ‘ordinary’ race Hamilton would be a good bet to win the race but in a situation were coming second might be the wise thing to do there is additional risks in backing him. If the odds on the exchanges drift out to 2/1 then that might be enough to take on the risks (Hamilton currently 2.84 to back).
The Two Williams do have more straight line speed then the Mercedes and they may be able to attack on the opening lap but the Merc is a better all round car and should prevail over a race distance. There is also the impression that Williams do tend to screw things up and they have not delivered the results that the car is capable of all season long. Brazil was a case in point.
Kvyat starts from 5th after the demotion of the Red Bulls but Toro Rosso perform better over a single lap than they do over a race distance and he will do well to finish in the points. He has started from 5th before (Russia) but finished a disappointed 14th. Button starts 6th which is a good result from what hasn’t been a perfect weekend so far. The McLaren has definitely improved in recent races and Button has had three top 5 finishes in the last four races as he strives to save his F1 career. He can be backed at 8/13 to finish in the top 6 but he looks a better bet to win a group bet. Hills and Betvictor have him up against the two Ferrari’s and team mate Magnussen.
Alonso is favourite in the group which is bizarre. He is completely disinterest, pissed off with the current Ferrari boss and really could give a tinkers cuss about scoring points today. He even tweeted earlier in the week to say that this would be the hardest weekend of the season and that his power unit is basically worn out and has to be turned down just to try and finish. He was out qualified by Raikkonen yesterday for only the third time this season which just about sums up his weekend. Raikkonen is hardly flying and has only beaten Button once in the last six races. Magnussen is in the same car but is three places behind Button on the grid and while is has had a hard time from the stewards at times, Button has proven that he is the quicker driver, easily beating Magnussen 14 - 4 and while is has had a hard time from the stewards at times, Button has proven that he is the quicker driver, easily beating Magnussen 14 – 4 in the season’s H2H’s.
3 points Button to win Group A @ 13/8 with Betvictor (Group 2 with Hills) - won 4.87 points
Sergio Perez yesterday signed a new deal to race with Force India next year and beyond and will have a spring in his step this morning. He also starts two places higher than he qualified and just needs to make up one place to score a point. The Force India is a better car over a race distance than in qualifying. He has finished in the points in five of the last seven races and only once did he start better than 11th on the grid. The two he missed out on were after a stupid crash in the US GP and the resulting penalty handed out for the Brazilian race.
3 points Perez to finish in the points @ 6/5 with Betfred, Spreadex - won 3.60 points
As a final parting shot at the F1 season I will take Vergne to beat his teammate Kvyat. The young Russian has a five place advantage on the grid but he does not have a good record of converting good grid positions into solid races results. Kvyat has out qualified his team mate 12-7 so far but it is Vergne who has seven top 10 finishes to Kvyat’s five and Kvyat has not scored in the last six races compared to Vergne’s three top 10’s in the same period.
2 points Vergne to beat Kvyat @ 13/8 with Hills, Coral, Betvictor - won 3.25 points
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24.11.2014 18:26:31
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Lauda oli kh peomeeleolus RTLi tiimile näitas rahvusvahelisi käemärke
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liitunud: 30.11.2003
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24.11.2014 18:49:06
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sieg heili asemel finger heil
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