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Marie
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liitunud: 23.06.2003
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21.08.2010 11:00:17
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| ühilduvuse teekond emmega? iga socketi pin eeldab reeglina mingit rada emaplaadil. mida rohkem radu, seda keerulisem ja kallim platet teha. |
Pigem vastupidi, mida rohkem on protsessorisse integreeritud asju, seda odavam on emaplaati toota, kuni lõpuks jääb emaplaadile ainult seadmetega ühendamise funktsioon ...........
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Marie, ma ei pidanud sealkohal integreerimist silmas vaid juba komponentide endiga ühendamist.
ilma integreeritud jubinateta läheks asi lihtsalt veel keerulisemaks.
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Intel's Sandy Bridge Architecture Exposed
AnandTech
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| two 256-bit AVX operations per clock (+ one 256-bit AVX load). |
AMD'l oli vist üks op per takt kahe tuuma peale, kuigi too op võis olla madd.
_________________ Teach a man to reason and he'll think for a lifetime
Common sense - so rare that it's a damn superpower
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liitunud: 28.12.2001
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Keegi võiks pakkuda inteli Sandy Bridge platvormi eluiga vs amd uus am3+ ja kumb enne ilmub.
Vana arvuti müüdud ja uut ei raatsiks nagu osta kui uuendused tulekul...
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liitunud: 03.02.2005
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AMD's Demos Zacate Integrated Fusion CPU: Updated
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Intel: 22nm Microprocessors Are Already in Production.
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Chief executive officer of Intel Corp. said that the company's forthcoming microprocessors are already in sample production. The world's largest maker of chips is on track to start their volume production using 22nm fabrication process in late 2011.
"We are on track to deliver 22nm [process technology]. Last year, at IDF, I showed you the first working wafer with SRAM devices on it. This year, I'm happy to report that our first first microprocessor designed for 22nm is moving through our fabs as we speak here today. It's on track for delivery in the second half of next year," said Paul Otellini, chief executive of Intel, at the Intel Developer Forum Fall 2010.
Although the high-ranking executive did not reveal actual code-names of the chips, at present we do know that in 2012 the company plans to release code-named Ivy Bridge microprocessors for desktops, notebooks and workstations as well as code-named Knights Corner chip that is designed for highly parallel workloads and which is based on the MIC architecture. Since Ivy Bridge was planned years earlier than Knights Corner, it is most likely that at present Intel is manufacturing samples of the former at its plants.
Not a lot is known about Ivy Bridge at this point. Given the fact that the design of Sandy Bridge - the father of Ivy Bridge set to be made using 32nm node - is oriented on consumers and brings massive improvements in areas such as performance of graphics; it is logical to assume that Ivy Bridge will further improve its predecessor in key aspects, such as memory performance, graphics processing performance and so on.
"Great graphics performance is required, but it is not sufficient anymore. If you look at what users are demanding, they are demanding an increasingly good experience, robust experience, across the spectrum of visual computing. Users care about everything they see on the screen, not just 3D graphics. So, delivering a great visual experience requires media performance of all types: in games, in video playback, in video transcoding, in media editing, in 3D graphics, and in display," stressed Mr. Otellini.
By starting to make microprocessors using 22nm process technology in late 2011 Intel will leave behind its rivals much behind. At present, a little less than a year after Intel started to make chips using 32nm fabrication process no company manufacturers volume chips at that node. In fact, Intel's arch-rival Advanced Micro Devices only intends to initiate mass production of 32nm chips sometimes in the first half of 2011 because of issues with 32nm SOI process technology at Globalfoundries. |
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AMD on hakanud kosjasobitajaks?
Get a Geek in Five Easy Lessons
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liitunud: 05.03.2002
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14.10.2010 05:47:23
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Intel Reports Record $11.1 Billion Revenue
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Revenue $11.1 billion
Gross Margin 66 percent
Operating Income $4.1 billion
Net Income $3.0 billion
EPS 52 cents |
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liitunud: 16.02.2002
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31.10.2010 13:47:43
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9194022/Intel_Toshiba_Samsung_aim_to_halve_chip_circuitry_size
Kõvemad tegijad liituvad ja hakkavad suuremat koostööd tegema. Nats jama kui gloubalfoundries-TSMC osa ei võta kuid loodetavasti ei jääda liiga kaugele maha
_________________ Teach a man to reason and he'll think for a lifetime
Common sense - so rare that it's a damn superpower
Vaadates paljude inimeste sõnavõtte siin ja mujal jääb üle ainult klassikuid tsiteerida - "I weep for humanity" |
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kalluka
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liitunud: 03.02.2005
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31.10.2010 14:01:59
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AMD Comments on Graphics Chips Market in Q3 2010
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@ 0Ghz .Tean et numbrid ära kustutatud :
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villu70
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liitunud: 19.12.2006
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12.12.2010 19:01:57
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Uurides veits maad tundub ,et jõudluse ja hinna suhtes AMD X4-X6 parim valik, või olen asjast valed järeldused teinud?
Targemad andke nõu, mis prose on ca. 2500.- parim valik?
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liitunud: 19.04.2009
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12.12.2010 19:30:14
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| Sellise hinna juures kindlasti AMD.Aga oleneb kas sa tahad mängida või tegeled hoopis renderdust või muid kuut tuuma kasutavaid programme.
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villu70
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liitunud: 19.12.2006
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12.12.2010 19:34:13
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| Sellise hinna juures kindlasti AMD.Aga oleneb kas sa tahad mängida või tegeled hoopis renderdust või muid kuut tuuma kasutavaid programme. |
Mängimine ikka jahh. Siis peaks X4-st piisama.
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Winterwind
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12.12.2010 19:42:40
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või siis minu käest tutikas i7 860
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pohmakas,
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12.12.2010 19:50:02
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või siis minu käest tutikas i7 860  |
Jees, see oleks üle prahi selle summa eest (promo)
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liitunud: 03.02.2005
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15.12.2010 21:20:07
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Intel and AMD stuck in market share stalemate in Q3 2010
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Worldwide microprocessor revenues grew 23 percent in the third quarter of 2010 compared to the same time a year ago, and 3 percent compared to the second quarter of 2010, according to market research firm iSuppli. The rate of expansion should be considered very healthy growth, though the actual market share slices held by the world's two largest microprocessor manufacturers, Intel and AMD, have barely budged. Neither company was able to wrest significant market share away from the other in terms of revenue for the entire global processor market, including x86, RISC, and other types of general-purpose microprocessors.
Intel accounted for 80.1 percent of global revenue for microprocessors in Q3 2010, up 0.1 percentage points from Q3 2009, but down 0.3 percentage points sequentially in Q2 2010. AMD lost market share on both sequential and year-over comparisons, but the decrease amounted to less than one percentage point. The company accounted for 11.3 percent of worldwide microprocessor revenue during the period, down 0.9 percentage points from Q3 2009 and down 0.2 percentage point from Q2 2010.
"In reality, the share changes in the third quarter from the two incumbents were extremely small and not at all significant," Matthew Wilkins, principal analyst for compute platforms at iSuppli, said in a statement. "What is significant, however, is that neither company has been able to take any sizable share away from the other. One reason is that each company offers well-matched competitive product portfolios. Another reason is that end markets are not undergoing significant changes in market share of product lineup that would impact microprocessor market share." |
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04.05.2011 22:34:39
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Miskipärast vr-zone aadress ei taha kuidagi resolvida seega pean google'i cache'i kasutama
link
Lühidalt Inteli järgmine põlvkond peaks andma ~20% boosti võrreldes sandybridgega.
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Although Intel's Sandy Bridge processors have only just launched, early details of Intel's next generation platform codenamed Ivy Bridge are already starting to trickle out. According to early roadmap details we've seen, Intel is estimating that Ivy Bridge will offer a 20 percent performance advantage over Sandy Bridge which is slightly more than what Sandy Bridge offered over Intel's first generation of Core i processors.
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Ivy Bridge to have 20 percent performance advantage over Sandy Bridge
Although Intel's Sandy Bridge processors have only just launched, early details of Intel's next generation platform codenamed Ivy Bridge are already starting to trickle out. According to early roadmap details we've seen, Intel is estimating that Ivy Bridge will offer a 20 percent performance advantage over Sandy Bridge which is slightly more than what Sandy Bridge offered over Intel's first generation of Core i processors.
Ivy Bridge will at least initially be available in LGA-1155, although we'd expect the new CPU core to appear in other socket configurations as well. Don't expect any huge change in terms of the basic features though, as Ivy Bridge will still only get two or four cores, although there will of course be models with Hyper Threading available. Ivy Bridge is likely to get upgraded to support PCI Express 3.0, although it's unlikely that we'll see an increase in lane count.
On the graphics side we'll see support for DirectX 11 and OpenCL 1.1 and Intel is targeting a 30 percent graphics performance boost compared to Sandy Bridge. Ivy Bridge will also add support for three independent displays and will support HDMI 1.4, but oddly enough so far it doesn't seem to support DisplayPort 1.2, only 1.1. We should also expect to see improved video encoding, decoding and transcoding, although as always this is depending on software support.
The Panther Point chipset will of course have native USB 3.0 support with the first four USB ports being of the 3.0 variety. Panther Point will support Sandy Bridge, but it's unlikely that Intel's Cougar Point chipsets will support Ivy Bridge. Panther Point will of course also support SATA 6Gbps, but we don't have enough details on how many ports will be supported as yet. When it launches Panther Point will be known as the Intel 7 series chipset, although the exact model names have yet to be nailed down by Intel. The Ivy Bridge platforms will launch sometime in early 2012. |
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Juttu Inteli 22nm'ist. Vast kõige huvitavam on 3d tri-gate transid. Teekond 2D'st 3D kivideni algab
http://newsroom.intel.com/docs/DOC-2032
Prosede masstootmine 22nm peal peaks algama selle aasta teises pooles, 14nm peaks tulema 2013, 10nm 2015
Ühele kivile ~3 miljardit transsi
• Dramatic performance gain at low operating
voltage, better than Bulk, PDSOI or FDSOI
37% performance increase at low voltage
>50% power reduction at constant performance
• Improved switching characteristics
(On current vs. Off current)
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Intel claims 3D chip revolution
By Richard Waters and Chris Nuttall in San Francisco
Published: May 4 2011 17:43 | Last updated: May 5 2011 00:18
Intel has claimed the biggest breakthrough in microprocessor design in more than 50 years, raising the stakes significantly for rivals in the increasingly capital-intensive global chip industry.
The world’s biggest chipmaker said on Wednesday that it would begin producing chips this year using a revolutionary 3D technology that has been nearly a decade in the making, and which it said would act as the foundation for generations of computing advances to come.
Microchip transistors, the building blocks of electronics, have to date been produced in flat structures – akin to printing on a sheet of paper. Intel’s breakthrough involves producing more complex three dimensional transistors on chips.
The new technology is one of Intel’s biggest gambles in the race to maintain and even extend its long-standing lead over other chipmakers in making components smaller and faster, while breathing fresh life into the remorseless cycle of chip improvements on which the modern computing and electronics industries are founded.
The impact of Intel’s attempt to push ahead of the rest of the industry was felt more widely on Wednesday, as Applied Materials, which supplies Intel with manufacturing equipment, announced a $4.9bn acquisition to keep up with the new technology.
The US equipment maker said it would buy Varian Semiconductor Equipment for $4.9bn to give it the capability to handle chips of greater complexity than those whose circuits are only 22 billionths of a metre wide – the scale at which Intel said it would begin manufacturing before the end of this year.
Intel called its new chip design the most significant advance since the introduction in the 1950s of the transistor, the fundamental building block in electronics. It said the breakthrough would also extend Moore’s Law – the accurate 1965 prediction by Intel co-founder Gordon Moore that the number of transistors on a chip could be doubled roughly every two years.
That exponential rise in processing power has formed the basis for the steady advances in electronics since, though many in the industry fear that the chipmakers are approaching the limits of their ability to continue the improvements.
“For years we have seen limits to how small transistors can get, this change in the basic structure is a truly revolutionary approach,” said Mr Moore in a statement.
“Amazing, world-shaping devices will be created from this capability as we advance Moore’s Law into new realms,” said Paul Otellini, Intel chief executive.
Martin Reynolds, of the Gartner research firm, said: “Its a big deal, they seem to be well ahead of the rest of the industry. At the low end, the chips can help make mobile devices that need less power and at the high end they can make servers more powerful ... this could help persuade the industry to use Intel’s chips.”
Applied Materials announced that its agreement to acquire Massachusetts-based Varian for $63 per share in cash – a 55 per cent premium to its closing price on Tuesday – was aimed at helping it solve the problems of ever increasing chip complexity, transistor scaling and 3-D designs.
Shares in Intel closed up 1.95 per cent to $23.50. |
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selle graafiku juures - mida ütleb sulle kasutatud testide kohta tõsiasi, et 1100t ja x2 260 vahe on 4 minutit (~3%)?
amd 'praegune' arhitektuur pole just väga uus.
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aa, ma pealkirja ei lugenudki. per core on see seis juba ammu selge olnud.
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... AMD on tohutult maha jäänud, Inteli 4-aastat vana arhitektuur edestab AMD praegust...
Loodame, et Bulldozer muudab siin midagi. |
Per takt töö tegemine oli näitaja liiga mitu aastat tagasi. P4 oli kõrgele taktile orienteeritud ja pidigi takti kohta vähe tööd tegema aga selle eest töötama kõrgel taktsagedusel. Bulldozer jälgib pmst sama ideoloogiat. Teeb takti kohta olenevalt rakendusest kas rohkem või vähem tööd kui eelmine generatsioon aga takt saab vähemalt aasta lõpuks pakun korralik olema. Tom's HW on ennegi vahele jäänud Inteli kasuks cheatimisega ja see mida nad siin näitavad on puhas BS kuubis a la traktor on kiirem kui vormel, sest suudab suuremat koormat kanda. Selliseid asju ei saa võrrelda. Isegi kui BD mingi ime läbi lippaks 5GHz peal oleks ta THW loogika järgi ikka lootusetult vananenud arhitektuur. Itaniumit ei saaks üldse võrdlusesse panna kuna see jookseb üldse 1,73 GHz peal. Power6 jooksis aastal 2007 5Ghz peal, jällegi THW loogika järgi ülisaast prose. AMD on hetkel tõesti vana arhitektuuriga väljas aga selle loogika järgi prosesi võrrelda ei saa.
Huvitav et ennevanasti oli THW väga ametis P4 kiitmisega ja selliseid per takt töö tegemisi ülistusi graafikutega kusagil näha polnud
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