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Helseth
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Happy weekend, everyone!
We will be conducting a stress test TOMORROW Sunday, August 12 from 11:00 AM PACIFIC Time to 12:00 Noon PACIFIC Time.
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Minu arvutuste järgi peaks kell 21:00 hakkama.
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52 minuti pärast uus stress test. peaks kestma tund aega
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s4nder kui palju on paljud eestlased ja kust info pärit on? |
Millalgi jäi silma, et Kalevlased lähevad Desolationisse. Praeguseks on võib-olla vananenud info.
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eu serverid
Aurora Glade
Blacktide
Boreal Station
Desolation
Far Shiverpeaks
Fissure of Woe
Gandara
Gunnar's Hold
Lakeside County
Piken Square
Ring of Fire
Ruins of Surmia
Seafarer's Rest
Umbral Grotto
Underworld
Vabbi
Whiteside Ridge
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Augury Rock
Fort Ranik
Jade Sea
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Abaddon's Mouth
Elona Reach
Kodash
Riverside
Guild Wars 2 frequently asked questions
Note: This is a community-made FAQ based on information from interviews and other official sources. For an ArenaNet-made FAQ, see their website page.
Please note that this isn't a page to ask questions, and that most answers are already here.
Contents [hide]
1 General Questions
2 Release and testing
3 Original Guild Wars
4 Technical stuff
5 Servers/Worlds
6 Gameplay
6.1 Character
6.1.1 Levels
6.1.2 Playable races
6.1.3 Professions
6.1.4 Skills
6.2 PvE
6.2.1 Persistence
6.2.2 Setting
6.3 PvP
6.4 Guilds
7 References
[edit] General Questions
Will there be a subscription fee?
No. There is no monthly subscription fee. Once your purchase the box or a game key, you are free to play as much as you want.
Will there be micro-transactions or things to buy which don't come with the box, like character slots?
Yes. The game includes micro-transactions via the Gem Shop. Items that can be purchased via the gem shop are cosmetic, intended to provide a convenience or are account services, such as adding character & bag slots. Gem shop items will not offer any substantial gameplay advantage over those available through the investment of time. You will also be able to trade coin, earned in-game, for gems that other players spent cash to buy.
Isn't ArenaNet going to ruin the game by making their game more like all the other MMORPGs?
No. ArenaNet has specifically said that they are not trying to make another World of Warcraft clone. Their core ideals of accessibility, playing how you want to play, the ability to play with your friends, and not having to wait until maximum level to 'begin to start' playing the game, have been prominently mentioned in the press for the game. The game also does not use the conventional "Holy Trinity" system of DPS, healer, and tank, but instead uses a damage, control, and support system. [1]
I've got this great idea for GW2, where should I post it?
The only place ArenaNet can legally take player suggestions is the feedback area on the Guild Wars Wiki. Head over there, create an account , and post your ideas. Don't forget to review other players' suggestions, too.
What if my question is not answered in this FAQ?
Check the Guild Wars 2 article or use the search feature to look for more details here on the wiki. If you are sure the information is not available here, ask your question on this article's talk page.
Where can I get more information about Guild Wars 2?
Start with the official website, official twitter account, and official facebook page. This wiki's main page includes links to the latest news and an article with links to various interviews. Plenty of fansites also publish speculations and unconfirmed details.
Is there going to be an official game guide?
Yes. An official strategy guide will be published by Brady Games. You can pre-order one from the same vendors that are selling pre-order and pre-purchase versions of the game.
Will there be custom Guild Wars 2 peripherals, such as keyboards and mice?
Yes. Currently in production are the Guild Wars 2 mouse, headset, and 3 different mousepads. [2]
Will there be any buy able expansion that brings in new race and classes?
[edit]Release and testing
When is Guild Wars 2 going to be released?
August 28th, 2012 (official announcement)
Can I be part of the beta testing?
No. The public beta testing is over and the game will be released August 28th, 2012.
What events have already taken place?
The first public beta weekend event ran from Friday, April 27th at noon PDT (UTC-7) to Sunday, April 29th 11:59 p.m. PDT (UTC-7).[3]
There was a server stress test on May 14th from 11:00 AM through 6:00 PM PST. [4]
The second public beta weekend event ran from Friday, June 8, at noon PDT (UTC-7) to Sunday, June 10, at 11:59 p.m. PDT (UTC-7)[5]
A second server test took place on June 27th from 10:00 AM through 3:00 PM PDT (UTC-7), although it was originally scheduled to run until only 2 pm.[6]
The third and final public beta weekend event ran from Friday, July 20 at noon PDT (UTC-7) to Sunday, July 22, at 11:59 p.m. PDT (UTC-7).
There was a stress test between the hours of 12PM PST - 4PM PST on 02/08/2012.
There was a stress test between the hours of 12PM PST - 4PM PST on 02/09/2012.
Are there any remaining events?
None are known. It seems unlikely there will be more.
Will there be a demo for Guild Wars 2?
There have been demos at various game conventions. Currently, there is no other way to play, outside of the planned events described above.
What languages will be supported? Will there be different servers for different languages?
English, Spanish, German, French, and other yet-unspecified European languages will be supported when the game launches.[7][8] ArenaNet has not stated whether voice work will be translated into every language. Support for Asian languages will be added later.
Will Guild Wars 2 have stand-alone campaigns?
No. ArenaNet has decided to do away with the system used in Guild Wars, since it tends to split the community and requires redundant tutorial systems. Instead, the developers will add new content via some type of expansion mechanism.[9]
[edit]Original Guild Wars
So what was wrong with the original Guild Wars?
The development team at ArenaNet realized, at the time they started work on the fourth Guild Wars campaign, that there were so many things they wanted to do but couldn't fit into the existing game. They decided that making Guild Wars 2 was the best way for them to do what they wanted to the game.
Can I keep on playing Guild Wars?
Yes. ArenaNet has stated that the Guild Wars servers will stay open after GW2 is released. There will continue to be special events and patches for players who stay playing Guild Wars.[10]
Are there going to be any more expansions for Guild Wars?
ArenaNet has already released some small expansions that help bridge the gap in the story between Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2; these do not require purchase to access. A third storyline has been plotted, but has not been scheduled for development. Full, purchasable expansions haven't been entirely ruled out, but they seem unlikely. If they are created, it will not happen until after the release of Guild Wars 2.
Can I transfer a Guild Wars character to Guild Wars 2?
No, character transfers between the games are not possible.
However, you can reserve your existing Guild Wars character names for use in Guild Wars 2.[11]
How do I reserve the character names I'm using in Guild Wars for use in Guild Wars 2?
Reserve names by logging on to Guild Wars at any time after January 1, 2012 and before the name reservation list is built (the exact date will announced a few weeks before launch).
Link your Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 accounts.
Create a Guild Wars 2 character using the name(s) from your Guild Wars account. This step must be done during the Headstart Access period or on launch day. [11]
What happens if I don't reserve the name before the name reservation list is build, I don't link my accounts, or I don't use the name by the end of launch day?
After launch day, all remaining names will lose their reservation and become available to all Guild Wars 2 players.[11]
Will anything transfer from Guild Wars besides character names?
Yes, if you link your accounts, your Guild Wars in-game achievements recorded in the Hall of Monuments will be translated into special titles, animal companions, miniatures, an exclusive armor set, and one exclusive skin for each type of weapon. For further reference, see the article on the Hall of Monuments Reward Calculator or refer to the Hall of Monuments article.
Are Hall of Monuments achievements by character or by account?
By account. A player may link a Guild Wars 2 account to a Guild Wars account using an in-game item in Guild Wars 2. All characters on the account will then be able to access the rewards from the Hall of Monuments.[12]
[edit]Technical stuff
What are the specs for running GW2?
The minimum requirements are:[13]
Windows® XP Service Pack 2 or better
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3, AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 or better
NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800, ATI Radeon™ X1800, Intel HD 3000 or better (256MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)
25 GB available HDD space
Broadband Internet connection
Keyboard and mouse
ArenaNet reserves the right to update these requirements, depending on changes to the game. This might require that a small number of players upgrade or replace their system to continue playing.[13]
Can I play on dial-up?
No. You must have a broadband connection, i.e. a DSL or cable connection.
Will I need DirectX 10 to play?
No. Only DirectX 9 is required. However, DirectX 10 is supported. [14]
Will I be able to play the game on a Mac or Linux PC?
Not officially. ArenaNet has not given any indication that they will offer support for those platforms. A number of players have installed Guild Wars 2 on Wine and successfully participated in one or more Beta Weekend Events.
Will I be able to play the game on a console?
No. There are no plans to implement the idea. However, a small team is exploring the possibility.[15]
Will there be an internal voice chat client?
Not at this time. ArenaNet has mentioned the idea, but never released any specifics about it.
Will I be able to use add-ons to alter the interface of my client?
Not officially. As with the original Guild Wars, neither ArenaNet nor NCSoft support the use of third party software with GW2; any problems that you have as a result of doing so must be resolved on your own.
In addition, players must take care that they are always in compliance with the terms and conditions of the End User Licensing Agreement. The companies reserve the right to suspend or ban accounts that are found to be using software that gives an unfair advantage to players.
Will there be a way to play custom music to replace the standard music?
Primary article: customized soundtrack
Yes. The soundtrack can be altered with customized playlists and audio files. You can also choose to replace some music in certain situations (e.g. during combat), but not in others.
[edit] Servers/Worlds
Are there going to be different servers?
Primary article: World
Yes. When you log into the game for the first time, you will have the opportunity to choose your home world, which you will represent during World versus World.[16]
Can I play on a server outside of my region?
Yes. If you do so, you will be logged out briefly while the game moves your account to the new region.
Can I change servers?
Yes. You can change your home world. There will be a limit of one such transfer every seven days per account; each transfer will cost 1,800 gems. After a transfer, all existing and future characters on your account will play in the new world.
I'm on one server, but my friend is on another. Can we play together?
Primary article: Guesting
Yes. Guesting allows you to participate in PvE content on an alternative server. However, you can only participate in WvW via your home world.
How many people are there going to be in each world/server/instance?
Each world will host "many thousands" at a time. There is a limit per map in the world, although ANet has offered a specific number. Each World versus World map is going to support up to 500 players.[17]
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Ma olen tükk aega juba GW2 oodanud. Asjad on nüüd nii kaugel, et olen ühenduses mitme eestlasega, kes kõik kavatsevad või on juba ostnud GW2. Nad omakorda on kutsunud oma sõpru. Nii et meid on kokku juba üle kümne.
Selleks, et koos mängimist paremini kordineerida, tegin täna Eesti Gildile oma lehekülje: http://gw2estonia.enjin.com/home
Kutsungi kõiki eestlasi koos mängima ühisesse gildi ja serverisse. Hetkel on kaalumisel Gunnar's Hold ja Far Shiverpeaks. Jälgige saiti täpsustuste jaoks või veelgi parem tulge juba praegu niisama lobisema ja betakogemustest rääkima
_________________ Ordu - Guild Wars 2 Eesti Gild: http://ordu.enjin.com
Lühike kirjeldus: http://www.gw2guilds.org/view-guild/3440
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Kust kohast oleks Eestis odavaim osta GW2-te? Ametlikult retailerilt Gamestarist? Ei pea olema pre-purchase versioon.
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Ma olen tükk aega juba GW2 oodanud. Asjad on nüüd nii kaugel, et olen ühenduses mitme eestlasega, kes kõik kavatsevad või on juba ostnud GW2. Nad omakorda on kutsunud oma sõpru. Nii et meid on kokku juba üle kümne.
Selleks, et koos mängimist paremini kordineerida, tegin täna Eesti Gildile oma lehekülje: http://gw2estonia.enjin.com/home
Kutsungi kõiki eestlasi koos mängima ühisesse gildi ja serverisse. Hetkel on kaalumisel Gunnar's Hold ja Far Shiverpeaks. Jälgige saiti täpsustuste jaoks või veelgi parem tulge juba praegu niisama lobisema ja betakogemustest rääkima |
http://www.kalevlased.ee/gw2/forum/
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14.08.2012 13:36:22
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@gekomees
Ma soovitan Gamestari.
@pro
Ma tean seda kohta, aga seal ei ole erilist aktiivsust.
_________________ Ordu - Guild Wars 2 Eesti Gild: http://ordu.enjin.com
Lühike kirjeldus: http://www.gw2guilds.org/view-guild/3440
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onufred
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Küsimus, olen siin kamminud erinevaid teemasid, kuid pole päris aru saanud. Nimelt kunagi sai proovitud gw 1 te ja minu jaoks oli mäng saast, kuna oli instance based, ehk nägid teisi ainult linnades, kui linnast väljusid olid üksi v siis ainult partyga. Kas sama sitt on ka selles mängus või lõpuks ometi on tegemist open worldiga ?.
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Open World.
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Küsimus, olen siin kamminud erinevaid teemasid, kuid pole päris aru saanud. Nimelt kunagi sai proovitud gw 1 te ja minu jaoks oli mäng saast, kuna oli instance based, ehk nägid teisi ainult linnades, kui linnast väljusid olid üksi v siis ainult partyga. Kas sama sitt on ka selles mängus või lõpuks ometi on tegemist open worldiga ?. |
Loading screen on mängus ainult ühest Zone-ist teise liikudes. Üks zone on keskmiselt kaks või kolm korda suurem kui tavaline zone WoWis. Zone-id ise aga pole instanced nagu gw1-s, mis polnud mmorpg. GW2 on mmorpg ja omab open worldi.
_________________ Ordu - Guild Wars 2 Eesti Gild: http://ordu.enjin.com
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Väga hea , tundub üle pika aja üks mäng mida muretseda, eriti meeldib see kuumaksu puudumine, kuna pole aega pidevalt mängida ja mõttetu siis raha sisse taguda.
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Kõik betad sai Desolationis oldud, seega liitub tolle serveriga 25. Augustil.
Samuti loodab sinna kutsuda mitu eestlasest sõpra/tuttava GW1 ajast, kellega juba betas sai koos oldud. Kui Kalevlased plaanivad ka selle serveriga liituda, siis WvWvW-s kohtub vähemalt sõpradena, mitte vaenlastena.
Teisel teemal.
Huvitav lugemine nvidia videokaartide kasutajatele. Link
Spoiler
This driver is mainly for Kepler regarding GW2. It will boost certain Fermi based card performance (read: GTX 560 Ti and 570 the most of the bunch)
The GTX 670 and 680 will run properly and boost properly using the new driver, and their performance will be more in equilibrium.
Basically, you Fermi users are looking at a healthy 5-45% performance boost, but not necessarily on minimum fps only (so the overall impact might not be quite as significant as perhaps you're hoping). You Kepler users are looking at a more sizable 20-70% performance boost, but that boost will generally be in the area of minimum fps, not maximum, so your averages should improve well.
As for 8000/9000 and GT200 series owners? You're looking at a very minor bump, approx 3-10% in most situations. Unfortunately, the unified driver tweaks don't carry as well to the much older architectures.
However, it might be time to lay down a few bucks for a new GTX 650 or GTX 660 (Ti or otherwise). That would probably be a dramatic upgrade if you're still rocking a GTX 285 or below.
As for specific fixes...
All I can say is, most of those are focused on optimizing and tweaking internal features to match up with GW2's engine features, which will smooth out performance even more, especially with more options enabled (super-sampling, FXAA, shadow settings, etc)
One specific fix that I can mention is nVidia implementing an override to use their own FXAA3 technology instead of the built in engine's, which is superior not just in image quality, but in performance and is better optimized for nVidia's architecture.
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Desolation on ääretult populaarne server, väga ülerahvastatud. Soovitan ühineda GW2Eesti gildiga, kes tõenäoliselt liigub Far Shiverpeaksi, kus on ka mitmeid soome ja teisi põhja-euroopa gilde.
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Desolation on ääretult populaarne server, väga ülerahvastatud. Soovitan ühineda [url=[/url] gildiga, kes tõenäoliselt liigub Far Shiverpeaksi, kus on ka mitmeid soome ja teisi põhja-euroopa gilde. |
Räägi, mida ülerahvastust gw2 serveris endaga kaasa toob?
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Desolation on ääretult populaarne server, väga ülerahvastatud. Soovitan ühineda GW2Eesti gildiga, kes tõenäoliselt liigub Far Shiverpeaksi, kus on ka mitmeid soome ja teisi põhja-euroopa gilde. |
Täpselt sellepärast tulebki Desolationisse minna, et tegu on korraliku serveriga. GW2's väidetavalt ei tohiks teistele mmo'dele omaseid login järjekordi olla.
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Suurem osa evente on üksi tegemiseks liiga rasked, nii et kõrge populatsiooniga server on eelistatav. Kui aga Desolationist peaks midagi Lag'Akiri sarnast kujunema, siis pärast väljalaset on serverivahetus mõnda aega tasuta.
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Esiteks lükkab ülerahvastatud server sind pidevalt Overflow serveritesse.
Teiseks pole eventide tegemine enam fun, sest rahvast on ümberringi nii palju, et tegu on labase zergrushiga. Pole väga lõbus bossiga võidelda, kui sa rahvahulga ja particle efektide tõttu viimast ei näegi
Kolmandaks on WvW-s osalejate arv piiratud, seega kõrge popi korral ei pruugi sinna alati sisse saada.
Ma ei ütle, et Desolation otseselt halb server on, nii Deso kui Shiverpeaks on mõlemad suhteliselt kõrge populationiga serverid. Aga kui valida nende kahe vahel, siis tundub loogilisem võtta server, mis on vähem täis.
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Esiteks lükkab ülerahvastatud server sind pidevalt Overflow serveritesse.
Teiseks pole eventide tegemine enam fun, sest rahvast on ümberringi nii palju, et tegu on labase zergrushiga. Pole väga lõbus bossiga võidelda, kui sa rahvahulga ja particle efektide tõttu viimast ei näegi
Kolmandaks on WvW-s osalejate arv piiratud, seega kõrge popi korral ei pruugi sinna alati sisse saada.
Ma ei ütle, et Desolation otseselt halb server on, nii Deso kui Shiverpeaks on mõlemad suhteliselt kõrge populationiga serverid. Aga kui valida nende kahe vahel, siis tundub loogilisem võtta server, mis on vähem täis. |
sold!
ma tulen sinna serverisse
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Põder
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liitunud: 15.01.2007
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15.08.2012 00:05:01
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Esiteks lükkab ülerahvastatud server sind pidevalt Overflow serveritesse.
Teiseks pole eventide tegemine enam fun, sest rahvast on ümberringi nii palju, et tegu on labase zergrushiga. Pole väga lõbus bossiga võidelda, kui sa rahvahulga ja particle efektide tõttu viimast ei näegi
Kolmandaks on WvW-s osalejate arv piiratud, seega kõrge popi korral ei pruugi sinna alati sisse saada.
Ma ei ütle, et Desolation otseselt halb server on, nii Deso kui Shiverpeaks on mõlemad suhteliselt kõrge populationiga serverid. Aga kui valida nende kahe vahel, siis tundub loogilisem võtta server, mis on vähem täis. |
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Shiverpeaks it is. =)
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Lennard
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liitunud: 22.01.2008
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15.08.2012 00:05:09
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Hmm, ma pole küll serverites asjus ekspert... kuid tundub eelkõige loogiline liituda sama serveriga kus ka teisi eestlasi on. Ning Apostli gild tundub aktiivne ja sait väga korralik.
Oleks tore teiste eestlastega oma eesti gildis mängida. Olen käpp
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rannokli
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liitunud: 24.05.2012
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15.08.2012 00:17:35
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tundub et eestlased siis hakkavad shiverpeaksi poole vaatama?
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BDKIAF
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liitunud: 02.05.2012
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15.08.2012 02:42:02
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rannokli kirjutas: |
tundub et eestlased siis hakkavad shiverpeaksi poole vaatama? |
Eks serverit valivad need, kellel kuhugi minna pole. Seega, kui praeguseks juba kindlat guildi ei ole, siis tõesti oleks sul loogiline liituda teiste kaasmaalastega, sest põhimõtteliselt saab ju serverit alati muuta.
Minu jaoks oli juba esimeses betas otsustatud Desolationisse minek.
EDIT:
Stresstest täna 15.08 kell 22.00-02.00.
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Samuti, launch 25. Augustil on kell 10, aga võib-olla on juba kell 7.
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The three-day Headstart Access will officially begin at 0:00 AM Pacific time (GMT -7:00) on August 25th. However, please note that in order to ensure that we’re fully prepared for that fateful hour we may bring servers online up to 3 hours prior. |
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Timberg
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liitunud: 27.06.2003
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15.08.2012 05:56:44
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bdkiaf ära aja. serverit valivad need, kes serverit valivad, mitte need, kellel kuhugi minna pole. kõigil gw2 mängijatel on valik, kuhu nad lähevad. see oli küll suhteliselt sitt gildi promo.
oma seltskonnaga läheme ka shiverpeaksi vms, eelmisel lehel päris asjalik promo.
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greencow
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liitunud: 21.12.2008
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15.08.2012 08:56:15
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Võibolla maitseb ka täna betat natuke.
Aga, ArenaNetil on huumorimeelt:
Spoiler
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lisa lemmikuks |
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sa ei või postitada uusi teemasid siia foorumisse sa ei või vastata selle foorumi teemadele sa ei või muuta oma postitusi selles foorumis sa ei või kustutada oma postitusi selles foorumis sa ei või vastata küsitlustele selles foorumis sa ei saa lisada manuseid selles foorumis sa võid manuseid alla laadida selles foorumis
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Hinnavaatlus ei vastuta foorumis tehtud postituste eest.
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