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liitunud: 30.11.2003
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08.10.2017 14:46:13
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hoiatusi lendab igas suunast täna
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McLaren's Fernando Alonso has been been handed a reprimand for ignoring blue flags during Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen's late battle for the win.
Alonso was summoned by the stewards after the race for having interfered in the final lap contest between winner Hamilton and Verstappen, lowering the Mercedes driver's lead down to just over one second.
The stewards found that Alonso, who was in a battle for 10th position with Felipe Massa, had not let the leaders through early enough
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Sebastian Vettel is one reprimand away from a Formula 1 grid penalty after being punished for missing the national anthem ahead of the Japanese Grand Prix.
The Ferrari driver skipped the pre-race ceremony to remain by his car, as mechanics worked to address the spark plug problem that would put him out of the race.
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08.10.2017 14:50:26
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vettel võtab selle viimase punkti ka vihaga ära, tiitel anyway läinud
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08.10.2017 22:43:54
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küll ikka leiavad asju mille üle viriseda,
fckn lõpeta crashimine ennem kui suu avad
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Grosjean questions Hamilton's seatbelt removal
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Romain Grosjean sparked a debate in the Japanese Grand Prix Formula 1 drivers' briefing by querying Lewis Hamilton taking his seatbelts off while celebrating race wins, it has emerged.
Hamilton undid his belts to pull himself out of the car while driving and wave at the crowd after winning the Malaysian Grand Prix a week ago, and admitted he had done so on other occasions.
In a video of the Suzuka meeting published by Formula 1, it is revealed that Grand Prix Drivers' Association director Grosjean responded to FIA F1 race director Charlie Whiting's request for questions by raising the seatbelt subject.
Grosjean: "After the chequered flag are we allowed to undo the belts?"
Whiting: "No. Any further?"
Grosjean: "Well I think Lewis has been doing it quite a lot."
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13.10.2017 19:34:29
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Porsche endurance racer Brendon Hartley to race for Toro Rosso in Austin alongside Daniil Kvyat, the team say |
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liitunud: 08.02.2006
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13.10.2017 19:55:40
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Õige otsus. Hea, et Gaslyl lubatakse ikka Super Formula tiitli eest võidelda.
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13.10.2017 20:08:41
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Seal polnud midagi lubadagi vist. Hondal oli eesõigus nagu ma aru sain
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18.10.2017 22:44:47
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This will be the 6th US G.P. at The Circuit of the Americas in Texas. It is an anti-clockwise purpose built circuit and one of Herman Tilke’s better tracks. The idea was to create a track which contained elements of the best bits of other tracks around the world and it is a good mix of fast sweeping corners, decent straights and more technical sections which pose a good all round test of man and machine.
The result is a track which does provide good racing, overtaking is possible, and it is hard to find the perfect set up as it demands a compromise set up with high downforce needed for the various corners but a lower drag set up will benefit top speed on the straights. All in all it works well and the event has turned out to be a huge success with big crowds and good races.
It is probably Lewis Hamilton’s favourite track as he has won four of the five races held here, with only Vettel’s 2013 win spoiling a perfect record. Vettel has had two pole positions compared to Hamilton’s one and the pole position driver has only won two of the five US GP’s. However all the races have been won form the front row of the grid.
Rain has featured in the past but there is little chance of any wet racing this weekend with dry conditions for all three days with sunshine increasing gradually day by day to end up with a very warm, sunny race day.
Hamilton is the 17/20 favourite and it’s easy to see why. His superb track record and his recent run of form which has seen him win four of the last five races, three of them from pole position. His team mate has gone off the boil and his championship title rival has had a horrendous run of results with just two podiums in the same period and two DNF’s. Raikkonen isn’t at the races and Red Bull are still struggling to match the qualifying pace to compete with the top two teams on Saturday. With a small power deficit even their excellent chassis they need a little good fortune to make up the difference come Sunday although they are making real progress.
Ferrari has let Vettel down with poor reliability. They have now promoted a lady from with the Fiat empire to head up their quality control department as they have been supplied with some duff parts which is completely unacceptable. Or at least that is what they are saying. I don’t buy it that Ferrari had to retire Vettel due to problems with a spark plug but it’s easier to blame a supplier than to admit say a design fault for example.
Mercedes haven’t had a trouble free recent run either, their car can struggle with the rear tyres in hot conditions and it is likely that the track surface will get quite hot on race day. Hamilton did not win from pole position on a hot track in Malaysia and he was being reeled in by Verstappen again in Japan when the weather improved markedly on race day. They may well be worried by Sunday’s weather forecast.
Red Bull now just about competing despite their qualifying handicap. Verstappen, arguably the best driver on the grid in my opinion, has had a rotten season, getting every bad break going so there was some justice that he won at Sepang and so nearly did so in Japan. This is a track on which a driver can make a difference, one of the reason’s Hamilton has had four wins is that he drives it very well, and Verstappen has the talent to make his car over perform.
There are question marks over Ferrari, a good car which is underperforming; the Mercedes does have problems with tyre performance in certain conditions which we may get again this Sunday and it could be that Verstappen can threaten the top step on the podium. His average grid position in the last four races has been 3rd and with a 1st and 2nd place in the last two races the momentum is certainly there. The team’s momentum is on the up, back back to back double podium finishes shows that. Ok, Ferrari’s inability to get two working cars onto the race track makes it easier but the fact that they now able to get at least one car onto the first or second row of the grid is concrete proof of the increase in performance.
1 point e/w Max Verstappen to win the US GP @ 14/1 generally available
Force India look to have 4th place in the bag and they have had a car in the top 6 for the last four races. Ocon has improved his qualifying pace and has made the third row twice in the last four races, an area where Force India has traditionally struggled. The latest spec Mercedes power unit has helped as they can now deploy the special Q3 power setting as Mercedes has done for all season. They are stuck in a no man’s land behind the big three but ahead of the rest of the midfield so if one of the top six cars has a problem or picks up a penalty, they are there to take advantage. Their reliability has been outstanding and not just this season.
Ocon is on a run of 25 races without a DNF, nine with Manor last season and the sixteen races this season. He has only once failed to finish in the points this season, 12th in Monaco (the car doesn’t like slow circuits) and for a virtual rookies, Ocon has been outstanding all season. If he isn’t in a top team with the next two seasons somebody is missing a trick. Force India’s biggest problem is that the two drivers are quite evenly matched and are invariably beside each other on the grid and on the race track. That makes collisions likely. It looks bad but since the team have stopped them racing each other they have avoided another crash but on the first lap accidents are harder to avoid.
Odds on bets are often poor value but in Ocon’s case a 40% return for a top 10 is actually very generous. However at this time of the season going in big ante post carries the risk that your selection could get a grid penalty for having to change a gear box or power unit etc. Force India has been reliable and can make the end of season without penalties but nobody is immune. A top six finish brings more reward and Ocon is worth a small bet to make Force India’s fifth top 6 from five races in a row.
2 points Ocon to finish in the top six @ 2/1 with Bwin (15/8 Hills, Coral, Ladbrokes)
Renault is very close to Force India in terms of one lap pace but they are way off in terms of reliability. They have finally ditched Joylon Palmer and rushed Carlos Sainz into the car as they attempt to overtake Haas and Toro Rosso for 6th place and maybe Williams can be caught for 5th. Nicking Sainz from Toro Rosso helps but with just one points finish from the last four races, they need reliability more than pace. The fact is that Vandoorne has outscored Hulkenberg over the last four races and the Honda McLaren is the most unreliable car on the grid.
It is a little ironic that just as Honda and McLaren have confirmed their divorce, they start scoring points. Vandoorne’s 7th place in Malaysia was their best result of the season. Yes Alonso had a 6th place in Hungary but that that had a lot more to do with other driver’s misfortune than his cars performance. The Hungaroring is a slow track in any case but Sepang isn’t which shows that McLaren have a strong chassis and Honda has gotten a little more power out of the PU. Vandoorne for once looks decent value for a points finish. McLaren are big enough to still be developing the car, something that Toro Rosso and Haas can’t do.
The problem with backing a McLaren is that a massive grid penalty is never far away. Vandoorne tops the penalties league table, followed by Alonso so they are best backed after qualifying but even then there is still a risk and the odds will be shorter. The risks are high but I will take a modest bet on Vandoorne now as the odds are good. Toro Rosso is weakened by the loss of Sainz, who has the problem of having to learn a new car at Renault. Brandon Hartley takes his place and he too has to learn a new car and having Kvyat back further weakens Toro Rosso. The competition for the top ten is weakened this weekend so with a clear run Vandoorne has a good chance to score more points. The team are happy that this track is less power dependant than Suzuka and even there Vandoorne qualified 11th.
2 points Stoffel Vandoorne to finish in the points @ 23/10 with Betstars |
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liitunud: 22.08.2007
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20.10.2017 08:08:24
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quali 12 öösel homme
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liitunud: 30.11.2003
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20.10.2017 21:28:45
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kulm plaanib Daytonal ka kaasa teha
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Fernando Alonso will continue to race for McLaren in Formula 1 next year, the parties confirmed on Thursday, ahead of the United States Grand Prix, bringing speculation over his future to an end.
Alonso rejoined McLaren on a three-year deal in 2015, for the start of the outfit's latest partnership with power unit supplier Honda, which returned to the sport after an absence.
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Williams has been handed a reprimand and a suspended fine for breaching tyre regulations during the opening practice session for the United States Grand Prix.
Formula 1 drivers must hand back a nominated set of tyres after the opening 40 minutes of the first practice session, but Williams narrowly missed the cut-off with Felipe Massa on Friday morning.
It was deemed that Massa used the allocated tyres three seconds after the 40 minutes expired, and stewards have handed Williams a reprimand and a €10,000 fine, suspended for 12 months.
However, stewards opted to suspend the fine due to the offence occurring just three seconds after the stipulated cut-off. |
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liitunud: 14.04.2003
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20.10.2017 21:40:41
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Lol, 3 sekundi pärast
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liitunud: 08.02.2006
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20.10.2017 22:47:28
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No need karistused muutuvad juba naeruväärseks. Eelmises motoorse rahutusee saates kah lahati seda teemat. Pmst üks vend ainult startis oma kvalis väljasõidetud kohalt. Kõik teised olid kohad vahetanud. Mis mõtet kvalil siis üldse on, kui pärast paberil kõik niikuinii ringi tõstetakse?
Mootori jne vahetusel peaks olema punktide mahavõtmine tiimi või sõitja punktidest.
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liitunud: 16.03.2006
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20.10.2017 23:36:12
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21.10.2017 12:31:13
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US Grand Prix: Statistics
Lewis Hamilton will win his fourth Formula One world championship if he outscores Sebastian Vettel by 16 points at Sunday's United States Grand Prix.
Hamilton will clinch the title if: He wins and Vettel finishes sixth or lower; he finishes second and Vettel is ninth or lower.
Hamilton is bidding to surpass Sir Jackie Stewart and become the first British driver to win four world championships.
Only Michael Schumacher (seven), Juan Manuel Fangio (five), Alain Prost and Sebastian Vettel (both four) have won more than three championships in the sport's history.
Should Hamilton clinch the championship on Sunday it will be the second time he has wrapped up a title at the Circuit of the Americas after his victory in 2015 secured the championship with three rounds to spare.
Hamilton has won four of the five races staged in Austin since its inception on the calendar in 2012. Vettel is the only other driver to have won here.
Hamilton's Mercedes team could also wrap up their fourth consecutive constructors' championship. Ferrari must score 17 more points than Mercedes to take the battle on to Mexico. That has happened just once (Monaco) this season.
Hamilton will be the only British driver competing here this weekend following Jolyon Palmer's dismissal by Renault. David Coulthard was the last solo British representative back at the 2005 Monaco Grand Prix after Jenson Button completed a two-race ban for BAR.
A victory for Hamilton would be the 62nd of his glittering career, which is double the amount that Nigel Mansell (31) - the next British driver on the all-time winners' list - managed.
Brendon Hartley will become the first New Zealand driver to enter a grand prix in more than three decades when he makes his debut for Toro Rosso. Mike Thackwell, who started just two races, was the last New Zealander to compete in an F1 race when he took part in the 1984 Canadian Grand Prix. |
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22.10.2017 00:12:45
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22.10.2017 01:02:10
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Lol, räiks ja riccardo sama ajaga
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22.10.2017 06:42:52
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Magnussen sai ka siis 3 places drop+
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Lance Stroll has also been given a grid penalty of three places for the United States Grand Prix after blocking Romain Grosjean during qualifying.
Haas driver Grosjean – on a fast lap – approached Williams rookie Stroll – on a slow lap – at the exit of the penultimate corner in the Q1 phase at the Circuit of the Americas.
Stroll, having just been overtaken by Daniil Kvyat on the inside, darted right to get out of Grosjean's way, after a late call from his engineer, but the Frenchman was forced to take to the run-off.
Stewards deemed that, despite doing "what he could in the circumstances", Stroll was deserving of a three-place drop, and his first penalty point in Formula 1.
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22.10.2017 20:46:09
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US GP - Race Day Update
2017-10-22 00:00:00 (This report was written at 2017-10-22 13:42:01)
This is turning into a bad weekend. Firstly Verstappen takes a 15 place grid penalty for PU changes, then he delivers ‘one of my worst qualifying performances’ on Saturday to lose our bet for him to out qualify Ricciardo by 0.08 seconds. He now starts from a distant 17th place. Vandoorne also gets 5 place grid penalty and moves back to 14th on the grid which is only one place worse than where he qualified, so go figure as they say in the States. At least Ocon now starts 6th so that bet is still alive but Ocon has told reporters that he was struggling with stomach pains and a headache and was finding driving difficult. Hopefully 24 hours rest will be enough for him to recover.
As expected Hamilton gets another pole. It’s all a bit pointless in qualifying. Hamilton has the special boost setting for his power unit, press that and he gets pole unless Bottas can find a great lap and he rarely has. Ferrari only has a baby boost button and can’t take pole unless we are on a slow track. Red Bull doesn’t have a boost button at all so they generally get stuck on the second or third rows. Or get penalties and start near the back.
No less than six drivers were punished with grid penalties and just trying to establish where each driver will actually start requires a small army of mathematicians and a super computer. My grid positions are taken directly from the FIA ….but even they are calling it ‘a provisional grid’. It may still change. It’s utterly pathetic.
Anyway, we have a Hamilton – Vettel front row which at least offers hope for an interesting race. Vettel was only 0.24 seconds off Hamilton’s time, better than he expected and Ferrari are generally more competitive over a race distance so we should have a proper race. If Ferrari can get their car to function properly. Starting from second has produced three winners here and just two from pole position but it must be said having had just five races makes this a weak stat.
The weather conditions are due to change later today with plenty of warm sunshine and a warmer track surface as a result. There has also been heavy rain this morning which means the track may have been effectively washed and would give up less grip. So the nature of the track surface could be quite different to what it was yesterday and that may well lead to the tyres behaving differently. It doesn’t look like being as hot as the forecast earlier in the week was suggesting but there is a chance that we could see some teams struggling with the tyres and that includes Mercedes.
Bottas has been complaining that he is having problems with braking and that the car is difficult to drive, especially in the slower corners. Hamilton doesn’t seem to have so badly affected but they do look a little short of performance in the slower sectors. It really doesn’t look like Hamilton has the pace to dominate this race from the off.
It seems tyre usage and fuel economy will play a part. Getting a car to do the race distance on 100 litres of fuel around this track can’t be done unless the diver backs off at some point to save fuel ,or unless we get enough laps under a safety car to reduce fuel consumption. Whoever manages the fuel the best may be able to attack in the closing stages while anyone marginal on fuel would have to go into fuel saving mode so we will have late drama hopefully.
Renault traditionally have produced engines that were not the most powerful but were the most economical and the Red Bull is very easy on its tyres, especially compared to the Mercedes so even from 4th on the grid, Ricciardo could play a part in this race. He is very good at maximising the cars performance over a race distance and very good at tyre management, hence getting nine podium finishes from the sixteen races (nine podiums from his last twelve). He likes the circuit and has been 3rd in two of the last three seasons.
The Red Bulls have had both cars on the podium in the last two races and now they really are at a competitive level with Mercedes and Ferrari over a race distance and I expect Ricciardo to be on the podium again….and the top step is not out of the equation. The circuit does allow for racing and overtaking and there has been no-one who has pulled off more top class overtakes than Ricciardo this season.
3 points Ricciardo to finish in the top three @ 11/8 with Hills
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22.10.2017 21:39:45
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Haahahaa... korralik sõitjate tutvustus ikka... väga Hollywood.
Kõik tüübid tulevad vaibale läbi suitsu nagu boksijad ning samasuguse ülivõrdelise kirjelduse saatel
viimati muutis -Koppel- 22.10.2017 21:41:10, muudetud 1 kord |
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22.10.2017 21:46:19
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karm värk jah suht valus vaadata
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22.10.2017 21:49:08
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Joppenbuh.....vettel mõtles, et andke kuuli
Aga ameerika maksab....nutad ja naeratad
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22.10.2017 21:53:46
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ei teagi kumb oli hullem, kas terve sõitjate tutuvustus või hami gay liigutused
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22.10.2017 21:54:53
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See tsirkus msi seal korraldati on ikka klass omaette, aga mitte positiivses võtmes.
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22.10.2017 22:10:24
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