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11.01.2016 13:25:37
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Kolmas punkt on suhteliselt no-brainer. Seda nimetatakse inflatsiooniks.
Neljas punkt ei pea paika, AMD tahab turuosa tagasi võita ja alust selleks on laotud pikalt.
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liitunud: 08.02.2006
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11.01.2016 14:46:03
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Alati on väiksemad-lihtsamad kiibid enne tulnud. |
Tegelikult mitte. Vaatasin just Nvidia viimased 5 põlvkonda (4xx kuni 9xx) ja AMD viimased 6 põlvkonda (HD4K kuni R300/Fury) ja kui välja arvata järgnevad anomaaliad:
GTX 680 väljalase paar kuud enne GTX 670
6850/6870 väljalase kolm nädalat enne 6950/6970
HD7K low end OEM (rebrandide) väljalase samal kuul 7950/7970-ga
R200 ja R300 seeria suht üheaegne väljalase (mitte võrdluses teineteisega vaid seeria piirides tulid kõik paari kuus sees välja).
...siis on single gpu tipp tulnud alati esimesena ja ~nädalase viitega ka sama kiibi kärbitud versioon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_400_Series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_R700_.28HD_4xxx.29_Series
Myth busted?
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Originally Posted by zealord |
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1) They always came later than expected. According to peoples hope we would've been on 20nm since end of 2014 with cards that are much better than the 980 Ti. |
Aga olekski. See pole GPU tootjate ja ammugi mitte entusiastide süü, et 20nm protsess kolinaga läbi kukkus. Süüdistage TSMC-d.
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2) They were always worse than people expected (the time before leaks. I remember when people said the GTX 680 is going to be like twice as good as the 580 lol) |
Ei oska kommenteerida. Muidugi selliseid absurseid väiteid ei tasu tõsiselt võtta a'la 100% kiirem.
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3) We will never ever get a true full-fat flagship GPU again for 499$ (at time of release) |
GTX 480 - 499
GTX 580 - 499
GTX 680 - 499
Kui see on minevikus juhtunud siis juhtub see ka tulevikus. See on sama nagu öelda, et päikesevarjutust enam kunagi ei tule. Jah seda ei juhtu iga aasta aga seda juhtub.
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4) AMD and especially Nvidia have become too good at reading and influencing the market. You will never ever get a "deal of the century" GPU ever again. It will always be a very calculated decision by Nvidia and AMD. I can already guarantee you will full certainty that whatever GPU comes next it won't be nearly as good as what people one year ago hoped to pay for a 2016 14nm GPU.
Especially NVIDIA knows exactly how to play their consumers. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this : |
Jälle vale. Eelmine punkt kehtib ka siinkohal. Kui konkurents seda nõuab küll siis tehakse hea bang for buck GPU kah valmis.
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Q2-Q3 GP104 GTX 1080 390mm² card release for 599$-649$. 30% better than 980 Ti/Titan X. |
Väljalaskeaja osas ei spekuleeri. GP104 kiip võib aga ei pruugi olla 1070/1080. Varasemalt oli tipp hoopis GF110 ja ja GK110. Nüüd on väiksem number võimsam. Selgituseks:
G=GeForce
F=Fermi
K=Kepler
M=Maxwell
P=Pascal
100=Titan/Workstation
104=Consumer tipp a'la 1080.
106=Consumer performance a'la 1060.
jne...
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Q3-Q4 Pascal Titan 550-600mm² card releases for 999$-1249$ 70% better than 980 Ti/Titan X |
No see võib üsna tõene olla juba. Kui aga Solarise tipp tuleb hea, siis nvidia teeb ilmselt GP100 põhjal 1080Ti vms mis maksab 649-749
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Q4-Q1 2017 Nvidia releases Pascal Titan Ultra with HBM2 or whatever for 1499$. |
Kahtlen selles. Pigem tuleb 1080Ti enne ja pärast tehakse juba dGPU GP104.
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It is always the same. When a new GPU looms on the horizon people go crazy about expectations. Some people are definitely going to be disappointed if they actually expect to see a high end Polaris GPU in two months from now. |
Muidugi ei tule Polarise tipp kahe kuu pärast. Kes seda usub peaks küll Paldiski Mnt ravile saatma. Kõige varem tuleb Polarise tipp suve lõpupoole/sügise alguses.
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I bet we will even see some rumors spread by AMD/Nvidia like when out of nowhere the rumor went around about Titan X being 1350$ and then Nvidia released the Titan X for 999$ and some people were like "oh wow 999$ is a steal for a Titan X. I am going to buy 2 of them !!" rolleyes.gif |
No ja ostavadki kaks. Ega arenenud riikides pole nagu eestis. Seal saavad inimesed ka oma hobidega tegeleda mitte ei pea sente veeretama.
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11.01.2016 21:03:31
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"tsitaat:
3) We will never ever get a true full-fat flagship GPU again for 499$ (at time of release)
GTX 480 - 499
GTX 580 - 499
GTX 680 - 499
Kui see on minevikus juhtunud siis juhtub see ka tulevikus. See on sama nagu öelda, et päikesevarjutust enam kunagi ei tule. Jah seda ei juhtu iga aasta aga seda juhtub. "
GTX6xx seeria full kiip oli GTX780Ti. Titani eest küsiti 1000$.
GTX9xx seeria full kiip on TitanX ~1500$.
Veidi minevikku: GTX280 maksis kaks nädalat 650$ enne kui tõmmati hind 500$ peale, sest 300$ HD4870 oli julm bang for buck.
AMD FuryX tuli 650$ välja.
290X ja HD7970 oli 550$
HD6970/HD5870 oli 370$
HD4870 oli 300$
Ehk nad liiguvad ka selles suunas.
Arvan, et see väide vastab lähituleviku kohta 100% tõele.
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liitunud: 23.04.2003
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11.01.2016 21:31:33
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miks seda vaatamist alustada 480st või 4870-st?
odavate kõrgema otsa kaartide aja algatasid 8800gt ühelt ja 3870 teiselt poolt.
8800gtx oli 600 raha, 8800ultra 800+. 7800gtx oli 600 raha, 7800gtx 512 oli iirc 650€. 6800 ultra oli 500 raha.
x1900xtx 600+ raha, x1800xtx oli 600+ raha, x850xt oli 500, x850xt platinum oli 550.
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liitunud: 08.02.2006
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12.01.2016 09:35:30
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GTX6xx seeria full kiip oli GTX780Ti. Titani eest küsiti 1000$. |
GTX7xx seeria pead ikka silmas? Mina pidasin silmas seda mis esmasel väljalaskel saada oli mitte seda mis kunagi hiljem tuli.
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GTX9xx seeria full kiip on TitanX ~1500$. |
Jah aga algsel väljalaskel oli selleks 980 sõltumata sellest mis hiljem tuli. Hiljem tulevad ju dGPU variandid kah. Need on veel kiiremad (kui skaleeruvus ei kala).
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Veidi minevikku: GTX280 maksis kaks nädalat 650$ enne kui tõmmati hind 500$ peale, sest 300$ HD4870 oli julm bang for buck. |
Sama juhtus ka 780-ga mis väljatulles oli 649 aga kisa läks liiga suureks, sest kolm eelnevat põlvkonda olid kõik 499 olnud. Seega üsna pea tõmmati ka see 499 peale.
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miks seda vaatamist alustada 480st või 4870-st? |
No alustame siis Riva TNT-st või?
Minu arust mõistlik nendest alustada kuna varasem kraam on juba liiga iidne.
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Mingi päev vaatasin millal ja mis hinnaga tippkaardid väljastati (esmased suured kiibid mitte tippkiibid). Aastaarvu võtsin ära aga üldiselt koorub selline pilt, et Nvidia kipub väljastama kevadel ja sügisel samas kui AMD pigem sügisel ja aastavahetuse paiku. Suvel ei taha kumbki eriti midagi väljastada. Arvatavasti läheb ka see aasta nii: GP104 kevadel, Polaris sügisel ja GP100 sügisel/aastavahetusel.
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GTX 480 - Märts 26 - 499
GTX 580 - November 9 - 499
GTX 680 - Märts 22 - 499
GTX 780 - Mai 23 - 649
GTX 980 - September 18 - 549
4870 - Juuni 25 - 299
5870 - September 23 - 379
6970 - Detsember 15 - 369
7970 - Jaanuar 9 - 549
290X - Oktoober 24 - 549
FX - Juuni 24 - 649 |
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liitunud: 23.04.2003
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12.01.2016 11:57:07
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Tomorrow, ma eelmises postis nagu just kirjutasin, miks. 600 ja 600+ hinnaga tippkaardid olid sealt põlvkond-paar tagasi täiesti normaalne nähtus.
tnt on 6xxx seeriast sama kaugel kui praegune 9xx, nii et ehitad üsna vildakat argumenti.
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liitunud: 08.02.2006
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12.01.2016 12:27:40
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londiste, No kui piisavalt tagasi minna siis on kõik väga kallis. Võtame kasvõi VR see aasta. 10 aasta pärast on see ilmselt tunduvalt odavam (kui see läbi lööb).
Aga ok. Teemasse kah: kas peaks teema pealkirjas muutma Arctic Islands äkki Polaris vastu?
Sest siinkohal on veidi segadust kah - Polaris peaks asendama Graphics Core Next nimetuse (GCN) aga mõned arvavad, et see asendab Arctic Islands nimetuse millega ma ei nõustu, kuna AI on seeria koodnimetus ja Polaris on arhidektuuri koodnimetus.
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12.01.2016 16:38:19
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Mängivad ikka ainult enda madala w peale, ma tahaks näha parem 4k 60fps kaarti
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liitunud: 08.02.2006
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12.01.2016 18:53:35
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Flab, See demo oli odavama otsa kiipidega võrdluses GTX 950-ga (artiklis olev slaid).
Sellest kõrgema otsa kiibist peale jutu midagi pole. Ainult see, et näidati ja AMD esindajal olevat IRWE näol olnud lol
Muidugi positiivne on see, et üldse midagi näidati. Nvidial on vist väiksed murepilved (aga võib ka täis-BS olla): http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-trouble/
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These issues with Pascal and the Drive PX 2 echo the Fermi “wood screw” even of 2009. Back then, Jen-Hsun held up a Fermi board that was nothing but a mock-up, proclaimed the chip was in full production, and would launch before the end of the year. In reality, NV was having major problems with GF100 and the GPU only launched in late March, 2010. |
Loodetavasti mitte järjekordne puukruvi skandaal
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12.01.2016 21:12:37
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(nõrganärvilistele hoiatus: terve artikkel on sarkasm)
https://semiaccurate.com/2016/01/11/nvidia-pascal-over-a-year-ahead-of-1416nm-competition/
Spoiler
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Nvidia is more than a year ahead of any competition in the mobile space as their Pascal based Drive PX 2 module proved. Held up by no less than CEO Jen-Hsun Huang, SemiAccurate felt it was an automotive tour de force.
The losses of Audi/VAG were a thing of the distant past at Nvidia because of the new Drive PX 2 module and specifically its twin 16nm Pascal GPUs. Teamed up with a total of eight ARM Cortex-A57 cores and four Nvidia Denver cores, full specs at Anandtech here. Together they provide everything a modern automobile could need for compute in a mere 250W package. That number is more than 10x the power draw of competitive solutions so it must be fast!
Getting back to their lead, Nvidia is so far ahead of the industry it is, well, nigh on incredible. Until the CES unveiling, AMD was widely believed to be 2+ quarters ahead of Nvidia on the process front, their 14nm Polaris GPUs had all the mindshare. On Monday January 4th, 2016, Nvidia showed undeniable proof that they were more than a year ahead of AMD in the race to 14/16nm devices. Not only that they were ahead of assumed leaders Apple and Samsung to devices on this node, way way ahead.
Why do we say this? Take a close look at the below picture from the official Nvidia Flickr stream of the Drive PX 2 board held up by Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang. This was taken at the CES unveiling of the PX 2, and you can see the full picture here. The room is full of press and analysts so SEC rules mandate that everything said is absolutely true, it would be illegal to do otherwise. With that in mind, you know this killer device is both real and what it is said to be.
The picture below is a closeup of one of the two Pascal GPUs on the PX 2 board that Jen-Hsun was holding. These 16nm FinFET devices are said to push out a combined 16TF of SP compute, a massive number for only 250W. That is only possible because of the process tech it is based on, 28nm devices would struggle to have half that performance in the same power envelope. But showing off 16nm pre-production parts is not a big deal, SemiAccurate held an AMD 14nm device in December. Why do we say that Nvidia has a massive lead over AMD then?
Closeup of one of the two Pascal chips on the PX 2 board
If you look closely at the chips you can see the date codes on them are 1503A1 and they are from TSMC. TSMC date codes are formatted as year of manufacture followed by work week of manufacture followed by stepping. For example the GTX 980 that was sent to the press in September of 2014 had a date code of 1421A1, the press GTX 960 from January 2015 had a date code of 1442A1, and the GTX 980Ti sampled in May of 2015 had a date code of 1436A1. You can work out the details of the press samples for yourself when you are bored.
What this means Nvidia has had 16nm FinFET based Pascal chips sitting on the shelf for almost a year, barely a quarter after Maxwell was produced. That silicon was manufactured in mid-January of 2015!!! Everyone including the author was assuming that Pascal didn’t even tape out until Q3 of 2015, we were off by at least nine months, more likely a year. More importantly this version of Pascal somehow doesn’t need HBM memory to reach those heady numbers, it uses vanilla GDDR5 chips as you can see.
That means the consumer versions of Pascal that have HBM will be so much faster than the quoted numbers for the Drive PX2 module that uses the GDDR5 memory that it is nigh unbelievable. Nvidia’s Pascal is so efficient that it can support compute levels that everyone believes is impossible with the memory bandwidths offered by the memory pictures. 16TF with GDDR5 is patently impossible for other silicon providers for anything but trivial benchmarks.
How Nvidia made the big Pascal chip in such a way that both GDDR5 and interposer based HBM memory will work with the same package is going to be very interesting to hear, every other company using HBM has found this impossible to implement too. More to the point such a memory configuration shouldn’t be possible using even bleeding edge technologies, but Nvidia has had this in their pocket, literally sitting on the shelf since January of 2015!!! That is technological leadership if it ever existed, quite the commanding lead.
But wait, the Nvidia leadership position is even more dominant than that. Those WW3/2015 date codes mean Nvidia had to tape their Pascal designs out in late 2014, even before the TSMC process was ready for such tapeouts much less stable. The Nvidia designers were obviously so good and so far ahead of the game that they were able to put out a design that worked so well out of the box that even on an unstable, some go so far as to say non-existent, process it worked on the A1 stepping. Not only that it worked so well that once TSMC stabilized the 16FF+ process months after Nvidia produced their Pascals, no update to the GPUs were even needed! Imagine that, so many critical PDK updates from TSMC and none managed to do any better than those plucky geniuses at Nvidia could get quarters before. That is a commanding lead if there ever was one, simply staggering process tech.
So to wrap it up, Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang showed off what he said were two Pascal GPUs in an Nvidia Drive PX 2 module. The date codes on the devices he held up made it very clear that they had been sitting on these devices for a week or two short of a year, no one else was even close to large 16nm FinFET GPUs at the time. Even TSMC could not produce such parts for months afterwards, their process wasn’t actually ready at the time. And the performance is more than 2x that of 28nm AMD devices even without the HBM memory that Pascal was supposed to require.
It all has to be true because as an executive in a publicly traded company with press and analysts who cover and trade Nvidia in the room, he is obliged by the SEC to be truthful. The only other explanation is that he knowingly lied to the press and analysts and showed a fake card in his keynote, something that would clearly be illegal. Jen-Hsun would never do something like that, right?S|A |
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(nõrganärvilistele hoiatus: terve artikkel on sarkasm)
https://semiaccurate.com/2016/01/11/nvidia-pascal-over-a-year-ahead-of-1416nm-competition/
Spoiler
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Nvidia is more than a year ahead of any competition in the mobile space as their Pascal based Drive PX 2 module proved. Held up by no less than CEO Jen-Hsun Huang, SemiAccurate felt it was an automotive tour de force.
The losses of Audi/VAG were a thing of the distant past at Nvidia because of the new Drive PX 2 module and specifically its twin 16nm Pascal GPUs. Teamed up with a total of eight ARM Cortex-A57 cores and four Nvidia Denver cores, full specs at Anandtech here. Together they provide everything a modern automobile could need for compute in a mere 250W package. That number is more than 10x the power draw of competitive solutions so it must be fast!
Getting back to their lead, Nvidia is so far ahead of the industry it is, well, nigh on incredible. Until the CES unveiling, AMD was widely believed to be 2+ quarters ahead of Nvidia on the process front, their 14nm Polaris GPUs had all the mindshare. On Monday January 4th, 2016, Nvidia showed undeniable proof that they were more than a year ahead of AMD in the race to 14/16nm devices. Not only that they were ahead of assumed leaders Apple and Samsung to devices on this node, way way ahead.
Why do we say this? Take a close look at the below picture from the official Nvidia Flickr stream of the Drive PX 2 board held up by Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang. This was taken at the CES unveiling of the PX 2, and you can see the full picture here. The room is full of press and analysts so SEC rules mandate that everything said is absolutely true, it would be illegal to do otherwise. With that in mind, you know this killer device is both real and what it is said to be.
The picture below is a closeup of one of the two Pascal GPUs on the PX 2 board that Jen-Hsun was holding. These 16nm FinFET devices are said to push out a combined 16TF of SP compute, a massive number for only 250W. That is only possible because of the process tech it is based on, 28nm devices would struggle to have half that performance in the same power envelope. But showing off 16nm pre-production parts is not a big deal, SemiAccurate held an AMD 14nm device in December. Why do we say that Nvidia has a massive lead over AMD then?
Closeup of one of the two Pascal chips on the PX 2 board
If you look closely at the chips you can see the date codes on them are 1503A1 and they are from TSMC. TSMC date codes are formatted as year of manufacture followed by work week of manufacture followed by stepping. For example the GTX 980 that was sent to the press in September of 2014 had a date code of 1421A1, the press GTX 960 from January 2015 had a date code of 1442A1, and the GTX 980Ti sampled in May of 2015 had a date code of 1436A1. You can work out the details of the press samples for yourself when you are bored.
What this means Nvidia has had 16nm FinFET based Pascal chips sitting on the shelf for almost a year, barely a quarter after Maxwell was produced. That silicon was manufactured in mid-January of 2015!!! Everyone including the author was assuming that Pascal didn’t even tape out until Q3 of 2015, we were off by at least nine months, more likely a year. More importantly this version of Pascal somehow doesn’t need HBM memory to reach those heady numbers, it uses vanilla GDDR5 chips as you can see.
That means the consumer versions of Pascal that have HBM will be so much faster than the quoted numbers for the Drive PX2 module that uses the GDDR5 memory that it is nigh unbelievable. Nvidia’s Pascal is so efficient that it can support compute levels that everyone believes is impossible with the memory bandwidths offered by the memory pictures. 16TF with GDDR5 is patently impossible for other silicon providers for anything but trivial benchmarks.
How Nvidia made the big Pascal chip in such a way that both GDDR5 and interposer based HBM memory will work with the same package is going to be very interesting to hear, every other company using HBM has found this impossible to implement too. More to the point such a memory configuration shouldn’t be possible using even bleeding edge technologies, but Nvidia has had this in their pocket, literally sitting on the shelf since January of 2015!!! That is technological leadership if it ever existed, quite the commanding lead.
But wait, the Nvidia leadership position is even more dominant than that. Those WW3/2015 date codes mean Nvidia had to tape their Pascal designs out in late 2014, even before the TSMC process was ready for such tapeouts much less stable. The Nvidia designers were obviously so good and so far ahead of the game that they were able to put out a design that worked so well out of the box that even on an unstable, some go so far as to say non-existent, process it worked on the A1 stepping. Not only that it worked so well that once TSMC stabilized the 16FF+ process months after Nvidia produced their Pascals, no update to the GPUs were even needed! Imagine that, so many critical PDK updates from TSMC and none managed to do any better than those plucky geniuses at Nvidia could get quarters before. That is a commanding lead if there ever was one, simply staggering process tech.
So to wrap it up, Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang showed off what he said were two Pascal GPUs in an Nvidia Drive PX 2 module. The date codes on the devices he held up made it very clear that they had been sitting on these devices for a week or two short of a year, no one else was even close to large 16nm FinFET GPUs at the time. Even TSMC could not produce such parts for months afterwards, their process wasn’t actually ready at the time. And the performance is more than 2x that of 28nm AMD devices even without the HBM memory that Pascal was supposed to require.
It all has to be true because as an executive in a publicly traded company with press and analysts who cover and trade Nvidia in the room, he is obliged by the SEC to be truthful. The only other explanation is that he knowingly lied to the press and analysts and showed a fake card in his keynote, something that would clearly be illegal. Jen-Hsun would never do something like that, right?S|A |
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meelevaldne arvutusvõimsuse ja mälu läbilaske sidumine. pressimaterjalideks ja tehniliselt korrektseteks suurteks numbriteks sobivad need eraldi ka.
eeldada, et investoritele ja pressile näidati seeriatootmisest olevat kaarti on ka vähe naiivne, kogu viimased paar lõiku sellest kuidas tsmc 16nm ikka 2015q1 valmis ei olnud on spekulatsioon. nii and kui nvidia selgelt tahtsid juba eelmist põlvkonda väiksemale protsessile viia ja ilmselt on jooksvalt mingid katsepartiid kividest ka saanud.
see 950 vs polaris demo oleks more impressive kui oleks kuidagi korratav - muu masina spec, konkreetsed sätted. vähemalt 950 tulemust peaks olema praegu võimalik sõltumatult kontrollida.
amd pr tuleks jätkuvalt lahti lasta.
enthusiast kui 950 klass, kuna numbrilse näite graafika just sellest ju pärit on?
ja noh, eelmise gen all peavad nad niikuinii silmas 390, mitte furyt, nende kahe perf/w vahe on juba iseenesest pea 2x.
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sa lugeda üldse ei oska?
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13.01.2016 17:54:01
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ei
edit:
mnjaa, pilt oli mingi muu. seega mu esimene point langeb ära indeed.
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Ilmselgelt mida varem, seda parem nii AMD jaoks kui meie jaoks.
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Alles keegi kirjutas, et suvel üldjuhul keegi kraami välja ei too
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NVIDIA GTX 980ti tuli June 2, 2015 wiki andmetel. See muidugi AMD survel, aga siiski..
Seega ei ole üldse imelik oletada, et reaalse toote olemasolul edumaa suurendamiseks tuuakse see juba suve alguses müüki ja ei hakata venitama.
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18.01.2016 12:16:46
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http://wccftech.com/amd-unveils-polaris-11-10-gpu/
Värsket infot:
* Polarisest on kaks versiooni, 10 ja 11. Esimene peaks olema desktop versioon (ilmselt on ohverdatud veidi power efficiency't perfi vastu) ja teine notebook versioon, mille puhul lubatakse konsoolide tasemel graafikat thin-and-light segmendis. Parim guess on et tegu on umbes 1300 GFLOPS GPU-ga (Xbox One), mis suudab elada kusagil 15-25W peal (GeForce 750 Ti elab 50-60W peal ja pakub sama jõudlust).
* H.265 (HEVC) kodeerimise/dekodeerimise tugi rauas. Lubatakse 4K striimide encodemist ilma väikseimagi perf hit'ita. Twitchi generatsioon rõõmustab. H.265 on veel selle poolest silmapaistev, et 4K resol suudetakse säilitada sama pildikvaliteet nagu H.264 64% väiksema bitrate juures. See eemaldab korraga päris palju bottlenecke mis senini 4K striimist raskendanud on - kõrged rauanõuded, kõrged upload'i nõuded ja lisaks on ehk nüüd võimalik ka Twitchi bitrate limiitide sisse jääda.
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18.01.2016 13:28:31
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võiks teema pealkirja ära muuta juba.
see "aka" kõlab väga ebaprofessionaalselt.
AMD R-400 "Polaris" seeria kõvasti etem
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18.01.2016 15:13:37
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Pealkiri ja esimene post kohendatud.
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sweet
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