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Oskar.r
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Oskar.r

liitunud: 30.06.2007



sõnumpostitatud: 12.11.2018 22:26    postituse pealkiri: Re: Lazy in communication and then blames me vasta tsitaadiga
Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: puudub

Rather illogical conclusion while using biasing phrases such as "babysitting".

He offered an extra deal, which I said I will answer next day (that is Sunday). Which I did with not his needed input.

Secondly if I got the bank numbers in the Monday morning, and made payment in the afternoon, which is not a large time gap.

All that in between is just you. I was interested in one set of RAM, where you tried to sell me 2 sets, and then the I took one day to think about, which I used.

That you are selling items, and don't have time to post them is not my concern. I told also I can pay upfront, and you can take a week to send them to Estonian address, which day is more convenient for you.

crouton kirjutas:
Oskar sent me the same timestamps below and asked me if he's missing anything. Here was my response to his message so you can decide for yourself. Please note that I am trying to be balanced but he wishes to pin everything on me.

"Sure, you are missing the facts that I had to follow up with you to check whether you had made the decision on Sunday. Then after sending you the bank details well in the morning the next day, I had to follow up with you by SMS to check whether you wanted me to post it to you [in the afternoon]. Then again I had to wait for your confirmation to my last question before you made the payment [when I had made it clear that I was leaving to the post office soon and that it would have been difficult for me to post it on other days this week].

Let me ask you, am I your babysitter? If you were "really counting on this RAM" as you stated in your earlier message shouldn't you have been a little more responsive? Meanwhile the other offer was on the table, and if I didn't sell it, i might have had to wait weeks to get another offer.

It's clear we have a disagreement and each of us seems we are right in our own regard. I do believe we both share the blame to some degree in this situation and the issue was one of miscommunication. But if you just want to pin all of the blame on me, you're simply wrong on that front.

Regardless, the feedback has been left on our profiles and no further harm has come. If it's possible to change the feedback, I would be glad to do so if we're each willing to apologize for our part in why this didn't go smoothly. (I am)

Otherwise, goodbye. And sincerely, good luck."

There are two sides to every story.
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crouton
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liitunud: 19.09.2018



sõnumpostitatud: 12.11.2018 22:07    postituse pealkiri: Re: Lazy in communication and then blames me vasta tsitaadiga
Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Neutraalne

Oskar sent me the same timestamps below and asked me if he's missing anything. Here was my response to his message so you can decide for yourself. Please note that I am trying to be balanced but he wishes to pin everything on me.


"Sure, you are missing the facts that I had to follow up with you to check whether you had made the decision on Sunday. Then after sending you the bank details well in the morning the next day, I had to follow up with you by SMS to check whether you wanted me to post it to you [in the afternoon]. Then again I had to wait for your confirmation to my last question before you made the payment [when I had made it clear that I was leaving to the post office soon and that it would have been difficult for me to post it on other days this week].

Let me ask you, am I your babysitter? If you were "really counting on this RAM" as you stated in your earlier message shouldn't you have been a little more responsive? Meanwhile the other offer was on the table, and if I didn't sell it, i might have had to wait weeks to get another offer.

It's clear we have a disagreement and each of us seems we are right in our own regard. I do believe we both share the blame to some degree in this situation and the issue was one of miscommunication. But if you just want to pin all of the blame on me, you're simply wrong on that front.

Regardless, the feedback has been left on our profiles and no further harm has come. If it's possible to change the feedback, I would be glad to do so if we're each willing to apologize for our part in why this didn't go smoothly. (I am)

Otherwise, goodbye. And sincerely, good luck."

There are two sides to every story.
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liitunud: 30.06.2007



sõnumpostitatud: 12.11.2018 21:56    postituse pealkiri: Re: Lazy in communication and then blames me vasta tsitaadiga
Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: puudub

1) I offered OK price, and contacted him in PS in same day. I was ready to pay the same day. He responded the next day (24h) offering 2 sets for some extra. I took a day to think, which seemed OK with him, and needed to decline his offer. Next early morning he sent the bank credentials, which I paid the afternoon the same day (Monday now).

2) That I am in Denmark, has nothing to do with it. Bank transfer was done in Estonia (Swedbank to Swedbank) and also the postage was to an Estonian address.

Time schedule if want to be more exact:
09.11.2018 11:39 I made the offer in forum on OK price.
09.11.2018 16:17 By initiative I texted him private message about the transaction. I was ready for payment.
10.11.2018 16:36 His first response to me and offering 2 sets of RAM instead of one with extra charge.
10.11.2018 18:54 I said I can think about it and in this case give him answer next day if I really need it.
11.11.2018 23:43 I told I will still take only the RAM for I offered the OK price.
12.11.2018 06:22 He sent bank credentials.
12.11.2018 15:26 I made the payment.

So you see, there was no dragging any feet. You just found a more better deal by your time, as he was getting 2 sets directly from you. That you called on my cell on Monday morning has nothing to do here.
By your unlogical response now, I just should have put a negative feedback to you.

crouton kirjutas:
I really want to leave negative feedback but it seems that it's quite permanent and I don't think this is a permanent issue.

I was selling two sets of RAM, one for 140/- and the other for 30/-. One user offered to buy both sets for 155/- which was good to me but Oskar offered the OK price on the first set soon after him. Since he offered this price first I wanted to follow the rules of the forum and trade with him even though he is in Denmark and the other buyer was in the same town as me.

Anyway, from the moment I contacted him, he was very slow in communication. I was constantly following up and reaching out to him to negotiate the trade. Waiting for him to respond was becoming annoying. First contact was on Saturday morning and by Monday afternoon there was no conclusive action from his side. I decided I don't really owe him all the extra inconvenience this transaction is giving me especially since there is a far more convenient offer on the table for me. With the other buyer, it took literally 30 minutes from the point of communication to a completed trade.

Anyway, after finishing the trade with the other person, I checked my phone and saw that Oskar had sent me the first part of the payment. I immediately returned it and then called him personally (even though he's in Denmark) to explain the situation because I know how it feels when trades don't work out like this and well, I thought it would be better to speak about it instead of texting over the internet. On the phone he seemed to understand and I thought we had settled it right there but then I came back to see the website and I think the feedback he left me is rather unfair and makes it look like it was all my fault.

Sorry mate, if you're serious about making a trade then it's your responsibility to respect the other party's time. Don't drag your feet and then complain when things don't work out.
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crouton
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liitunud: 19.09.2018



sõnumpostitatud: 12.11.2018 20:04    postituse pealkiri: Lazy in communication and then blames me vasta tsitaadiga
Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Neutraalne

I really want to leave negative feedback but it seems that it's quite permanent and I don't think this is a permanent issue.

I was selling two sets of RAM, one for 140/- and the other for 30/-. One user offered to buy both sets for 155/- which was good to me but Oskar offered the OK price on the first set soon after him. Since he offered this price first I wanted to follow the rules of the forum and trade with him even though he is in Denmark and the other buyer was in the same town as me.

Anyway, from the moment I contacted him, he was very slow in communication. I was constantly following up and reaching out to him to negotiate the trade. Waiting for him to respond was becoming annoying. First contact was on Saturday morning and by Monday afternoon there was no conclusive action from his side. I decided I don't really owe him all the extra inconvenience this transaction is giving me especially since there is a far more convenient offer on the table for me. With the other buyer, it took literally 30 minutes from the point of communication to a completed trade.

Anyway, after finishing the trade with the other person, I checked my phone and saw that Oskar had sent me the first part of the payment. I immediately returned it and then called him personally (even though he's in Denmark) to explain the situation because I know how it feels when trades don't work out like this and well, I thought it would be better to speak about it instead of texting over the internet. On the phone he seemed to understand and I thought we had settled it right there but then I came back to see the website and I think the feedback he left me is rather unfair and makes it look like it was all my fault.

Sorry mate, if you're serious about making a trade then it's your responsibility to respect the other party's time. Don't drag your feet and then complain when things don't work out.
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sõnumpostitatud: 13.08.2015 10:17    postituse pealkiri: vasta tsitaadiga
Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

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sõnumpostitatud: 15.03.2015 21:45    postituse pealkiri: vasta tsitaadiga
Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

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sõnumpostitatud: 30.01.2015 13:55    postituse pealkiri: vasta tsitaadiga
Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

Kiire ja eeskujulik tehing.
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sõnumpostitatud: 07.11.2014 11:43    postituse pealkiri: positiivne vasta tsitaadiga
Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

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Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

Vohh on thumbs_up.gif tegelane, pusis ise gepsuga mitu tundi ja polnud kade oma tulemusi jagama ja näpunäiteid andma.
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Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

Ma lihtsalt pidin panema positiivse selle eest, et mees kirjutas väga hea õpetuse TSI foorumis thumbs_up.gif
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Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

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Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

Suurepärane ostja. Kiire ja hea tehing. Soovitan!
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Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

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Arvamus kasutajast [ Oskar.r ]: Positiivne

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