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pohmakas,
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liitunud: 11.06.2009
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21.04.2010 19:46:48
AMD HD 6000 teema |
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Juba selle aasta algusest saadik on liikunud jutud ATi uutest graafikakaartidest, nimelt HD6000 mudelitest.
Eriti infot veel liikvel pole, kuid arvatakse, et tehakse kas 32nm või 28nm tehnoloogias ja oodata võib neid 2011 aasta esimeses kvartalis (samuti kinnituseta info).
Võiks siis juba teada anda enda ootustest uue seeria alal.
Postitused teistest foorumitest:
techfuels.com
Spoiler
In the second half of the new year, probably in the last quarter are expected to be ready for next-generation graphics processor architecture of the power of the ATI Radeon HD 6000 series will give the estimates were alleged to be in contrast to the year 2011. 40nm manufacturing technology, the efficiency problem of having to TSMC'nin seriously affected AMD's partners that plan to take steps to produce the GPU with GlobalFoundries known. Late in the day we explained Dirk Meyer, AMD hill manager, GlobalFoundries company will begin production of the GPU was confirmed. In the process of preparatory work for the transition to 28nm production in the last quarter of 2011 to complete to start volume production expected to GlobalFoundries plans.
ATI Radeon HD 6000 series according to information from the launch, production facilities for the 2011 GPUs GlobalFoundries accepted. Yet clear, but not information on AMD's new architecture with high 3D performance GPGPU approach will give greater weight and flexible design approach because it was prepared to oversee the GPU architecture, Fusion sornaki generation processor family in a more integrated into the processor is said to be.
xbitlabs.com
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Chief executive officer of Advanced Micro Devices said during a conference call with financial analysts that the company’s graphics division ATI was on-track to refresh its lineup of graphics cards in the second half of calendar 2010. The mystery, though, is with what the family of graphics processors will be renewed.
“We are ramping the ATI Radeon HD 5000 series now and look forward to refreshing the entire lineup in the second half of next year*,” said Dirk Meyer, chief executive officer of AMD, during quarterly conference call with financial analysts.
A little earlier this month AMD’s worldwide developer relations manager said that ATI hopes to maintain leadership position in terms of product performance “for the majority of 2010”. Still, it is not completely clear with what does AMD plan to refresh ATI’s lineup going forward.
The company has two ways of getting even faster products to market: it can redesign existing ATI Radeon HD 5000-series graphics chips so that to boost clock-speeds tangibly or it can introduce a brand new family of ninth-generation Radeon chips code-named Northern Islands, which is widely believed to feature a new architecture.
Not a lot is known about Northern Islands. Some sources claim that the new chips will be made using 32nm fabrication process, but the others believe that the new chips will be made on 28nm node. There are also reports that Northern Islands will have richer feature-set compared to Evergreen. According to some other reports, ATI’s next-generation family is code-named Hecatonchires and will feature code-named Cozumel, Ibiza and Kauai chips, which are not northern, but southern islands. As a result, it is possible that ATI may be working on two new architectures.
Earlier this week TSMC said that it would start mass production of chips using 28nm process technology in Q4 2010.
* Considering the fact that the call was dedicated to AMD’s financial results in the Q4 of fiscal 2009, the AMD executive referred to the second half of fiscal 2010 as to the “next year”, which is basically the second half of calendar 2010.
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CoiL
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liitunud: 07.06.2006
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21.04.2010 21:05:34
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ATI to Build 28nm Graphics Chips at Globalfoundries.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20100419141543_ATI_to_Build_28nm_Graphics_Chips_at_Globalfoundries.html
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ATI, graphics business unit of Advanced Micro Devices, will use 28nm HKMG manufacturing process of Globalfoundries to make graphics processors. AMD is obliged to use Globalfoundries to make graphics chips, but the company has not disclosed any concrete plans after the contract manufacturer cancelled its 32nm bulk fabrication process.
“The first intersection of our AMD GPUs and Globalfoundries are on the 28nm. We haven’t been public with respect to any timing there,” said Dirk Meyer, chief executive officer of AMD, during a quarterly conference call with financial analysts.
Globalfoundries is projected to start making commercial chips at 28nm node sometime in 2011, presumably early in the year. However, this does not mean that ATI will be ready with 28nm graphics processing units early next year.
Globalfoundries’ 28nm fabrication process will be available in two variants:
*The 28nm-HP (High Performance) variant will be optimized for leading-edge applications in such areas as graphics, game consoles, storage, networking and media encoding.
*The 28nm-SLP (Super Low Power) variant is optimized for wireless mobile applications such as baseband, application processors, and other handheld functions that require long battery lifetime. |
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ki55eLL, sellest juba päris palju linke/artikleid HV-s. Üks nendest oli hea pikk analüüsiv artikkel teemal kas 32nm või 28nm ja kus tootma hakatakse. Kahjuks ei tea selle linki. Hea lugemine oli.
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Winterwind
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liitunud: 19.05.2002
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21.04.2010 21:37:37
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32nm on tsmc-l ja gf-il juba ammu canceldatud ja hd6 seeria tuleb 28nm-i peal ning arvatavasti gf-ist.
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pohmakas,
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liitunud: 11.06.2009
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21.04.2010 21:48:32
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Ei kujuta seda 28nm ettegi, vahe 40nm-ga ikka päris suur vast.
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trip
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liitunud: 15.03.2007
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21.04.2010 22:02:35
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Charlie D. : "ATI's Southern Islands tapes out, Game over for Nvidia".
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/04/21/atis-southern-islands-tapes-out/
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ATI IS ON A ROLL, having taped out its next generation GPU family called Southern Islands. ATI might call it the HD6xxx series, and it could be out before Nvidia gets its GTX4xx line of GPUs fully fleshed out and to market.
The news is straightforward enough. Southern Islands (SI) taped out recently, and is now moving through TSMC. Although the schedule is very tight, if all goes really well we could see a demo or two at Computex in just over a month. This puts SI slightly behind where Evergreen was a year ago, but not by much.
Southern Islands is said to be a hybrid between the all new Northern Islands (NI) and the current HD5xxx Evergreen family. Those in the loop say that Northern Islands was meant to be on TSMC 32nm before that process was killed. Due to the ever-slipping nature of TSMC's 28nm high-K metal gate node, the SI hybrid GPU was slapped together to be fabbed on TSMC's current 40nm process.
Sources tell SemiAccurate that SI uses some of the NI uncore (unshader?), and wraps that around a mildly updated Evergreen shader. RAM is more of an open question. NI was set to use GDDR5+, but since DRAM makers might not be ready, we may end up with only GDDR5 on SI.
In any case, Nvidia has come out fighting with its GTX470 and GTX480, shipping hundreds, some say thousands, of units since ATI shipped Evergreen last September. If all goes well, and it appears to be doing just that, ATI might have Southern Islands on sale before Nvidia gets all of the GTX4xx variants out the door. The end of 2010 will see Nvidia fighting a new ATI line with a year late part that doesn't work within the promised specs, and can't be manufactured.
By the time Nvidia gets to 28nm next year, or possibly in 'GTX480' quantities this year, it is going to be fighting yet another new generation of ATI parts, Northern Islands. If the rumors are true, and the upcoming Fermi II is on TSMC's 28nm bulk process, and NI comes out on GloFo's 28nm high-K metal gate process, Nvidia won't even be in the game.
At this point, you really have to ask yourself if Nvidia will survive. Its chipset business is gone because it didn't understand Moore's law. Its GPU business is like a floating goldfish circling the drain. Its GPU compute business is wounded. And Tegra is being laughed out the door. Meanwhile, ATI is on a roll. |
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KrisVr
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liitunud: 27.08.2008
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21.04.2010 22:12:03
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nVidia-le pandi ära praegu.
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G80
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liitunud: 27.03.2006
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21.04.2010 22:40:30
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Ehk sügisel näeb neid 28nm kaarte.
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siinus
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liitunud: 20.01.2007
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21.04.2010 22:45:32
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Ootame siis HD6970't
DX12?
samas märgin end teemasse
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Draco
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liitunud: 15.09.2005
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21.04.2010 22:49:23
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Krt, ei jõua HD5 seeriatki osta kui juba uudis.
Mudugi need kaardid ei tule homme aga hetkel pole nagu vajagi vahepealset seljuhul.
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KrisVr
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liitunud: 27.08.2008
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21.04.2010 22:50:05
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djpvx kirjutas: |
Ootame siis HD6970't
DX12?
samas märgin end teemasse |
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Vaevalt DX12 tuleb, kui üldse siis DX11.1 vms.
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Killerwave
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liitunud: 05.01.2005
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21.04.2010 22:50:40
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Otot kas ma ei oska lugeda või milles asi aga Southern Island ehk HD6xxx tuleb ikka 40nm omab mingeid featuure mis pidid algselt olema kui seda 32nm peale kavandati...kuna see aga obsolete, siis NI tuleb 28nm ja see alles kunagi tulevikus.
Edit: samas mõned allikad väidavad ikka et tegu NI-ga ja 28nm.
Eks ootame kinnitust.
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martin366
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21.04.2010 22:59:09
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mul kuskilt kõrva jäänud et dx12 tuleb Win8'ga mis on 128bitine, vastab tõele ?
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siinus
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liitunud: 20.01.2007
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21.04.2010 23:07:07
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kuna dx11 ja 64bitine arhitektuur pole kumbki veel nn mainstream'iks saanud, siis ennustan veel pikka iga olemasolevatele tehnoloogiatele.
edit: typo
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KrisVr
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21.04.2010 23:12:42
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martin366 kirjutas: |
mul kuskilt kõrva jäänud et dx12 tuleb Win8'ga mis on 128bitine, vastab tõele ? |
Täitsa võimalik, et DX12 tuleb koos Windows 8-ga, olen isegi midagi lugenud. Esimene DX12 GPU, HD7870? 8870?
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siinus
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21.04.2010 23:16:14
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4+ gpu tugi võiks ka tulla
_________________ suck less | ANNA MU SAI!
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xxlmaster
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21.04.2010 23:32:35
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ei oskagi enam midagi öelda....
vihaselt lajatab ikka ATI
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Estnx
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22.04.2010 00:38:03
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Jätan endale ka märgi maha.
Liiga kiiresti uuenevad need vidinad
Nagu ,et vana s..t ei jõua veel ära jahtudagi, kui juba uus laadung tulmas.
Eks saab näha, mis 2 giganti jälle välja mõtlevad
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mirko27
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22.04.2010 02:00:07
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Kuna nvidia 480 mainstreami peaks minema?
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1dumbpcuser
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22.04.2010 06:59:39
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Vale teema!
Pealegi tipu kaardid ei saagi eriti "meinstriimi minna".
Teema märgitud
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Killhoven
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liitunud: 05.11.2001
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22.04.2010 07:21:35
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No ei kao see Nvidia kuskile. See on tugevalt meie huvides. Seis turuosas võib tugevalt muutuda.
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mirko27
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22.04.2010 08:22:09
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On varem muutunud ka
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G80
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22.04.2010 08:27:19
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Estnx kirjutas: |
Jätan endale ka märgi maha.
Liiga kiiresti uuenevad need vidinad
Nagu ,et vana s..t ei jõua veel ära jahtudagi, kui juba uus laadung tulmas.
Eks saab näha, mis 2 giganti jälle välja mõtlevad |
Aasta tagant ikka uued kaardid välja lastud.
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Heineken
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22.04.2010 15:39:11
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Panen ka märgi maha .
Huvitav kui suur HD6K seeria tuleb ? Eeldatavasti topitakse SP-sid juurde tiba .
Vast tuleb jahedam ja energiat säästvam ka ( mitte et HD 5K seeria ahi või vooluõgardid oleks olnud ) .
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Gizmoz
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liitunud: 24.09.2005
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22.04.2010 15:42:05
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seda öko varianti lausa ootaks ise ka juba 6670 Või see seeria peaks hakkama HD 6000
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TheDumbass
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22.04.2010 16:04:25
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Küll tehnika areneb kiiresti. Mul alles nvidia 8600 ja ei jõua sedagi uuendada kui juba tuleb uudis et ati hd 6xxx seeriat tehakse .
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