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13.09.2017 00:28:11
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Vähemalt Kvyat ei saa siis pahandust teha.
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mida aeglasem seda rohkem pahandust ju võib teha
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13.09.2017 06:28:31
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Mis siis siuliselt tähendab, et Kubica tagasitulek on suht kriips peal, kui just Toro Rossose ei lähe. Kuna Renault saab olema Hulkenberg ja Sainz.
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13.09.2017 07:04:44
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Selles vanuses ei eelda nagunii et tagasi saab tulla.
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13.09.2017 15:00:34
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Mercedes has agreed a new deal with Valtteri Bottas for the 2018 Formula 1 season. #F1 |
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13.09.2017 20:15:00
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Singapore GP - Preview
2017-09-17 00:00:00 (This report was created at 2017-09-13 12:43:07)
The European season has finished and after visiting Spa and Monza for the last two races F1 heads to Singapore and a very different challenge. A modern street circuit, Marina Bay features 23 corners, close barriers and has had at least one safety car deployment in every race since it opened in 2008. It is long race in terms of time and getting all the laps run before the two hour time limit is always a worry.
Monza and Spa were very much power critical tracks which favoured the power Mercedes and allowed Hamilton to win back to back races for the first time this season. He now leads the championship by three points but he faces a much stiffer challenge this weekend. Power is not critical for this track and Mercedes longer wheel base is better suited to the faster tracks with long corners rather than slow, twisty circuits such as Singapore. The Ferrari is also better in higher downforce conditions.
The two slowest tracks we have raced on this year are Monaco and Hungary and those saw Vettel winning both with Raikkonen second. Ferrari also locked out the front row of both grids so it’s no surprise to see Vettel installed as the 6/4 favourite to win the race on Sunday. It is also a circuit on which he has performed very well on in the past, winning four times, twice a runner up, never worse than 5th as well as having three pole positions.
3 points Vettel to win the Singapore GP @ 6/4 with William Hill, Betvictor, Sportingbet
Hamilton has won twice in Singapore and had three pole positions but he has also had three DNF’s and has lost to his team mate in six of the nine races to be held here. He also struggled at Monaco and Hungary, getting just 18 points compared to Vettel’s 50. So he will have to worry not just about Vettel and Raikkonen but his team mate as well as Bottas finished ahead of Hamilton in both Monaco and Hungary. On top of that we have the threat of Red Bull for this race. They are better on the slower high downforce tracks and Ricciardo was 3rd in Monaco, ahead of both Mercedes. Red Bull has improved since then and Ricciardo is bang in form, ahead of Raikkonen in the WDC and not far off Bottas in 3rd place. His performance at Monza, getting the unsuited Red Bull home in 4th place from 16th on the grid, was a good result and underlines his excellent form.
This is a race that Red Bull has targeted as a realistic win opportunity. Verstappen is having no luck whatsoever in 2017 with no less than six DNF’s from the thirteen races so far. He has not really impressed on the slower street circuits in any case and while he has out qualified Ricciardo in eight of the last nine races it just isn’t working out for him on race days. Ricciardo has been 3rd, 2nd and 2nd here for the last three years and with no engine penalties on the agenda this weekend he will be looking to get right in amongst the Mercedes and Ferraris on the grid and going for a win. Ferrari will be hard to beat and he may have to settle for another podium finish, which would be his 7th of the season.
2 points Ricciardo to finish on the podium @ 11/8 with Ladbrokes, Coral
With Red Bull likely to be particularly competitive this weekend we will try and get off to a good start and back Ricciardo to repeat his performance in Hungary and be fastest in free practice one. Ferrari tend not to go for a quick time on Fridays and the Mercedes might have a bit of a problem getting the most from their car on this particular circuit so there is a realistic chance to be fastest and even a top three would show a small return.
1 point e/e Ricciardo to be fastest in FP 1 @ 6/1 with William Hill
The lower power requirements of this track will be good news for the Renault powered teams and even McLaren Honda will be looking for a decent points haul and they did get their best result of the year in Hungary this year with Alonso’s 6th place. Ironically they are due to announce their divorce from Honda this weekend but even if they are not going to get penalised for the lack of power the reliability of the Honda carries a wealth warning in every race. Vandoorne has never raced this track before so the racing at night under lights on a new track will be a challenge.
Carlos Sainz looks to be heading to Renault for next season but he will be looking to pick up more points this weekend for Toro Rosso. He was 6th at Monaco and 7th in Hungary and while it is difficult for a small team like Toro Rosso to develop their cars at the same rate as the works teams he can take advantage of potential struggles for Williams and even Force India who have not enjoyed the slow tracks very much.
2 points Carlos Sainz to finish in the top 10 @ 6/5 with Betvictor
Perhaps the hardest team to call this season has been Haas. They don’t have a great car and lack any sort of consistency. The team are optimistic that the return to a higher downforce track will help them be more competitive but it’s hard to be overly confident. Grosjean has never gone well here with just one top 10 from five starts but Magnussen has been 10th in both his races here. He likes street circuit racing and while he is not a prolific scorer and not living up to his promise he looks to be a bit of value for this race.
2 points Kevin Magnussen to finish in the top 10 @ 7/4 with Ladbrokes, Coral
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liitunud: 18.01.2005
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14.09.2017 12:10:07
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Jah vaba agent nö.
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liitunud: 14.04.2003
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15.09.2017 12:44:51
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Tiim Alole:"Kas soovid veel ühe ringi teha?"
Alo:"No , please no"
Tiim:"Hetkel oleme 7 kohal ja meil oleks rohkem infot vaja"
Alo:" Et rohkem infot saada, siis me peaks esimesed olema"
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liitunud: 27.08.2003
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15.09.2017 16:01:12
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Tiim Alole:"Kas soovid veel ühe ringi teha?"
Alo:"No , please no"
Tiim:"Hetkel oleme 7 kohal ja meil oleks rohkem infot vaja"
Alo:" Et rohkem infot saada, siis me peaks esimesed olema"
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liitunud: 30.11.2003
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16.09.2017 15:30:20
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It looks like qualifying will be worth watching for once. The Lewis Hamilton show on Saturdays was becoming boring but on this street circuit their power advantage is blunted and we have a much more level playing field.
There was just 0.14 between the first three cars in FP3 and Ricciardo would have made that four cars but for a minor interface with a wall. Verstappen is aiming to be the youngest pole sitter in history but he faces the usual problem of Mercedes and Ferrari being able to turn up their power units for Q3 and Red Bull has no such option. However on a circuit were power is not the critical element that traditional advantage is minimised. Minimised but not totally absent. With such a small gap in FP3 even a little more grunt from the power unit could swing it.
Ferrari has been hard to follow this weekend. They were not chasing times on Friday and it was impossible to say where they really were but they went for performance today and Vettel was 2nd fastest behind Verstappen with a gap of 0.07. That is a gap that turning up the power unit can close. Hamilton was 3rd and 0.14 off Verstappen’s time. That might not be a gap that turning up the power can close. Ricciardo was fastest in FP1 and FP2 and is very much in the mix but Verstappen has owned him in qualifying this season out qualifying him 8-1 in the last nine grand prix. However this is a track that Ricciardo loves and these two will be very very close.
Alonso and Vandoorne celebrated their imminent divorce from Honda by being 4th and 5th but they are over 0.5 off the pace and are not in the running for the front two rows.
Hamilton, winner of eight pole positions this season is available to back at 7/1 which looks pretty huge for a driver who was just 0.14 off the best time this morning. The problem is that his car doesn’t look that good around this track, the rear end was moving a lot and it will be very difficult for him to match the Red Bulls or Vettel over a single lap…and his chances in the race look very slim.
Pole looks to be between the two Red Bulls and Vettel. Verstappen has the better qualifying form but this is a driver’s track and Ricciardo is a proven circuit specialist. Vettel is another who is proven over the track and he has the qualifying boost setting which the two Red Bulls are missing. That might just be the deciding factor but this will be close and the driver can make the difference as well. Vettel knows how to get the best lap here and he gets my vote even if the 11/4 Verstappen is very tempting.
2 points Sebastian Vettel to qualify on pole position @ 5/2 with Ladbrokes, Coral |
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16.09.2017 15:32:28
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Vaat nii
[spoiler][quote]It looks like qualifying will be worth watching for once.[/quote][/spoiler]
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16.09.2017 17:03:21
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vettel
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liitunud: 30.11.2003
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16.09.2017 17:12:28
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homme peaks hea sõit tulema kui muidugi Verstappeni automobiil taas ära ei lagune, (nagu sky vennad mainisid - et mingi 80 käiguvahetust ringi kohta, enim F1 radadest, vaesed käigukastid)
mersudele kvali oli muidugi valus flopp igatahes kuigi nad teadsid seda ise ka vist et see pole nende rada ennem juba
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16.09.2017 17:38:48
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Vaat nii
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It looks like qualifying will be worth watching for once. |
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jätan meelde,
ma muidugi kasutan läpakat kus see normull välja näeb,
pole veel moblast vaadanud kus see tõesti vbla mayhem on
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liitunud: 16.11.2003
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16.09.2017 17:41:07
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Mäkidelt on ka head esitust loota(kui honda mootor finišini vastu peab).
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16.09.2017 17:52:25
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hämmi koef pole aastaid nii sitt olnud vist
Spoiler
safety car YES 1.15 mis ka arusaadav vaadates kui paljud juba kvalis seinapõrkega tegelesid,
Massa vist kõige suurem ohver oma flat rehviga, Vetteli rehv ka oli seina värvi kvali lõpus kui Sky näitas seda
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17.09.2017 12:54:53
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padukas rajal
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jeesus188
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liitunud: 14.04.2003
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17.09.2017 14:17:00
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c2d4bd3c12effb22fd8883dc5d76f1fdea8b2dac
Tilgub, tuleb fun sõit. Pole kindel kas 2h ära mahuvadki
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17.09.2017 14:55:44
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jeesus188 kirjutas: |
c2d4bd3c12effb22fd8883dc5d76f1fdea8b2dac
Tilgub, tuleb fun sõit. Pole kindel kas 2h ära mahuvadki |
Kui hakkab sadama siis vist esimest korda tulede valguses pimedas. Krt peaasi et nüüd punast lippu ei hakata näitama.
Arvatavasti stardivad SC tagant.
LiveTiming on siin https://timing.71wytham.org.uk/s/f1
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viimati muutis bugbrake 17.09.2017 15:01:44, muudetud 1 kord |
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17.09.2017 15:00:29
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Ülekande errorid....loodetavasti sõiduajal probleeme plle
Kuna sajab ja "ohtlik" siis kruiisivad tükk aega sc taga arvatavasti
Varsti kuuleme live ohkimist ühelt poolt ja laske sõita teiselt poolt
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viimati muutis jeesus188 17.09.2017 15:01:50, muudetud 1 kord |
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Kreisi kasutaja
liitunud: 18.01.2006
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17.09.2017 15:01:22
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Tuleb huvitav sõit.
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17.09.2017 15:03:12
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Huviav kas jääb jätkuvalt sadama või jääb järgi.
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liitunud: 18.01.2006
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17.09.2017 15:04:06
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Mis ma ütlesin.
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jeesus188
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17.09.2017 15:05:48
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Verstappen mine piixu
Ferrud ka süüdi
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